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October 12, 2015 11:04 am  #5081


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Some things never change, no matter what version of the story you are in:

http://cupidford.tumblr.com/post/131004196145/trundle1-proof-that-hound-is-gay-notice-who
 


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

October 15, 2015 10:15 am  #5082


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Have you guys heard this Johnlock Little Mermaid parody?
https://soundcloud.com/williamanyascottholmes/part-of-that-world

Sung by williamanyascottholmes
http://williamanyascottholmes.tumblr.com/post/131187465069/this-is-both-the-best-and-most-ridiculous-thing

Part Of That World (TJLC edition)

I just can’t see how a show that makes such gay pilots be straight.

Look at this ship

Isn’t it neat?

Wouldn’t you think our

Fandom is complete?

Wouldn’t you think we’re the fans

The fans who have

Everything?

Look at this tag

Meta retold.

How many AUs
Can one fandom hold?

Looking around here you’d think

“Sure, they’ve got everything.”

We’ve got fanfics and edits aplenty
We’ve got screencaps and gif sets

Galore

You want homoerotic subtext?

We’ve got plenty!

But who cares?

No big deal.

I want more.

I wanna be

Where the johnlock is

I wanna see

Wanna see them dancing

Clubbing along in the,

What’s it called again?

Oh, gay bar scene

When they’re apart

They don’t get too far

Love is required for running
Waltzing.

Living together in

Where’s that again?

Baker Street.

Up where they walk

Up where they run

Up where they kiss all day in the sun

Canon and free

Wish I could be

Part of that world

What would I give

If I could live

Out of this hell?

What would I pay

To spend a day

Free from pining?

Betcha canon

Johnlock understands

Bet they don’t misread signals

No more pining
Sick of hiding,

Holding hands

And I’m ready to know what Mofftiss knows

Ask ‘em my questions

And get some answers

Why this hell and why does it

What’s the word? Burn?

When’s it their turn?

Wouldn’t I love

Love to see them openly in love?

at 221b

Wish I could be

Part of that world

Lyrics by irrelevantbl0g
http://irrelevantbl0g.tumblr.com/post/131140461860/part-of-that-world

Last edited by ukaunz (October 15, 2015 10:17 am)


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October 15, 2015 11:09 am  #5083


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

I love the lyrics, they are just so...so...true!
Thank you for sharing it!


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October 15, 2015 12:07 pm  #5084


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

That is fabulous!


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"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

October 19, 2015 1:35 pm  #5085


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Very good meta comparing the love of Sherlock to the love of Mary and their visual representation on-screen:

http://archipelagoarchaea.tumblr.com/post/95690063758/the-case-against-john-and-mary
 


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

October 19, 2015 1:50 pm  #5086


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Wonderful meta. I really have no idea how one can read this and still think this is not a romance. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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October 19, 2015 1:55 pm  #5087


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

SusiGo wrote:

Wonderful meta. I really have no idea how one can read this and still think this is not a romance. 

 
At times it does seem that many of us are watchign different programs.


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Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.  
Honorary German  
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

October 19, 2015 5:24 pm  #5088


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Very interesting meta. And crystal clear if put next to each other like this. I know it's often argued that the romantic tropes are used to underline the very special friendship, but I feel for " only a special friendship" it is HEAVILY  used. I could imagine there were sorts of " friendship tropes" the Mofftiss could have used. And compared to the dysfunctional Warston marriage it's just in plain sight.


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

October 20, 2015 12:00 pm  #5089


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Something a bit different today, that is no lovely pics and gifs but just some thoughts. 

I am currently watching the Southbank Show interview with Melvyn Bragg and I am once again completely fascinated listening to Benedict. He has such a thoughtful, funny, and compassionate way of talking about his characters, and Hamlet of course is one of the most complex characters in literature. He mentions aspects I never thought about before and it is obvious how deeply he delved into the character to make him come alive. On Twitter someone wrote about overhearing a visitor who said: "I once saw a great actor play Hamlet, Laurence Olivier. But this is Hamlet."

The same has been said about his Alan Turing. He talked exhaustively about the man, his take on the part, Turing's life and work, the research he did, etc. And here as with Hamlet you can really feel how much he loves those difficult, lonely, and sometimes tragic characters. 

So why all this in this thread? 
Because we have been talking in-depth about Sherlock for years, how the character has been conceived and how he keeps developing throughout the show and how Benedict makes him come to life and gives him a completely new momentum compared to other adaptations.
But the funny thing is, he does not talk about it. Not the way he talks about Turing and Hamlet although there is so much to be said. When he talks about Sherlock, I often catch myself thinking "Oh, Benedict, this is not you. Not at all." Always the same sweeping remarks about being a "sociopath" or "having regressed" in series 3 which is completely untrue if you ask me, or being interested in having sex with Irene which is more than improbable. (Honestly, he even took more pains in discussing the dragon than Sherlock)

In short: I feel once again confirmed in that there is something the team is not talking about. And IMO there is only one answer to this. 
 

Last edited by SusiGo (October 20, 2015 5:23 pm)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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October 20, 2015 12:48 pm  #5090


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Couldn't agree more! *standing o for Susi* Well put!


 

-Could you whisper...?
-NOT REALLY!!


 
 

October 20, 2015 12:51 pm  #5091


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Thank you, I had to get if off my chest. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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October 20, 2015 1:04 pm  #5092


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

*wipse away a tear*
*sniffles*

Oh Susi.  You have made your President so proud. 


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Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.  
Honorary German  
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

October 20, 2015 1:07 pm  #5093


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

*blushing furiously* 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
     Thread Starter
 

October 20, 2015 1:15 pm  #5094


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Both most lovely and intriguing..
Thank you.


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

October 20, 2015 1:20 pm  #5095


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

An interesting thought, Susi. And it sounds somehow convincing.


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Ten:" I'm burning up a sun just to say goodbye."

Sherlock: "I heard you.”

"Temptation coursing through our veins " 
(Tony Hadley)

 
 

October 20, 2015 1:42 pm  #5096


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Desperately unspoken.


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Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.  
Honorary German  
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

October 20, 2015 5:19 pm  #5097


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Lovely, Susi *applauds frantically* 


Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.   Independent OSAJ Affiliate

... but there may be some new players now. It’s okay. The East Wind takes us all in the end.
 

October 20, 2015 5:21 pm  #5098


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Thank you. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
     Thread Starter
 

October 20, 2015 6:32 pm  #5099


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
     Thread Starter
 

October 20, 2015 6:37 pm  #5100


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Oh they are so much in friendship, it's palpable 


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

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