Ormond Sacker wrote:

Also since asexuality simply refers to lack of sexual attraction to others, it doesn't mean that the person lacks passion, so I can't see how that would be a valid argument.
Plus with the above in mind, how does the "divorcing himself from feelings" enters into it? After all, it is perfectly possible to have sex with, or be sexual attracted to, a person without being emotionally affected, just as it is possible to have a deep emotional tie to a person and sex never entering the picture.

No one said that asexual persons in general can't be passionate. This, as well as allowing feelings, still goes hand in hand with sexual desire for me. I'm aware that it's possible to have emotions without sex and vice versa, but in Sherlock's case, that doesn't seem to be matter from how I perceive he is portrayed in the series. And that's just my personal opinion, since tonnaree asked for opinions.

Maybe this is like the Johnlock argument.  I see Sherlock as a sexual being because I want him to be.  It's not really anything overt in the show and the writers may do that on purpose.

On an unrelated side note, today I remembered why I don't like getting caught up in WIPs.*sigh*

Kerkerian wrote:

Ormond Sacker wrote:

Also since asexuality simply refers to lack of sexual attraction to others, it doesn't mean that the person lacks passion, so I can't see how that would be a valid argument.
Plus with the above in mind, how does the "divorcing himself from feelings" enters into it? After all, it is perfectly possible to have sex with, or be sexual attracted to, a person without being emotionally affected, just as it is possible to have a deep emotional tie to a person and sex never entering the picture.

No one said that asexual persons in general can't be passionate. This, as well as allowing feelings, still goes hand in hand with sexual desire for me. I'm aware that it's possible to have emotions without sex and vice versa, but in Sherlock's case, that doesn't seem to be matter from how I perceive he is portrayed in the series. And that's just my personal opinion, since tonnaree asked for opinions.

Let me start out by stating that people can see Sherlock any way they want, sexual, asexual, space alien, whatever. I truly do not care. And whether you're a Johnlock fan, Sherlolly or... what is that term for sexual relation between Mycroft and Sherlock?.. well that one too, knock yourself out. It's all fine.


On to what you said Kerkian:
It is entirely within the realm of the possible that I misunderstood youm but what you said in your last post was:

On a more serious note: I don't think he's asexual because I agree with you that there is a certain amount of repressed passion in him; his violin play for example is betraying that, and also the composing. Also, coming to think of it, the commitment with which he throws himself into things- be it a case, be it the search for hidden cigarettes.
In my opinion, he strictly doesn't want to allow feelings to get in the way of his work, not even with Irene Adler, though he clearly does find her interesting
(Emphasis mine)

Therefore I inferred that you meant that repressed passion, dedication and emotional involvement isn't something an asexual person has. If I got it backwards I apologise, but I've had to argue these points with soooo many people I sometimes get a little over sensitive. My bad.




@tonnaree and Wholocked. That's the Catch-22 of writing WIPs. No one wants to read them worrying they'd be abandoned, or walk off if updates become irregular. But, speaking from the other side of the equations, the irregular updates might easily be the result of lacking comments, interaction or even just reading, from followers. So the thing bites its own tail.

Last edited by Ormond Sacker (November 10, 2013 3:21 pm)

Ormond Sacker wrote:

@tonnaree and Wholocked. That's the Catch-22 of writing WIPs. No one wants to read them worrying they'd be abandoned, or walk off if updates become irregular. But, speaking from the other side of the equations, the irregular updates might easily be the result of lacking comments, interaction or even just reading, from followers. So the thing bites its own tail.

I know. I have quite a few WIPs I am reading. There are others I am subscribed to, but either because the frequency of posts or the stule of writing I get lost between chapters, so I am waiting for them to be completed, or at least for several chapters to be available to read.

Plus, I don't think I could keep track if I had any more WIPs to read!!!

Ormond Sacker wrote:

@tonnaree and Wholocked. That's the Catch-22 of writing WIPs. No one wants to read them worrying they'd be abandoned, or walk off if updates become irregular. But, speaking from the other side of the equations, the irregular updates might easily be the result of lacking comments, interaction or even just reading, from followers. So the thing bites its own tail.

I only don't read WIPs, but I suscribe to some of them, which is something the writer gets to see as well.

In my experience there is always an enormous increase in readers, comments and kudos once your fic is no longer a WIP. I am very thankful for those who read my fics while they are still under construction, but I also fully understand the mayority of readers who don't.

BTW, I never understood the mentality some of the writers are showong. "I will only continue writing / posting if I get enough comments" or such. I always write mainly for my own pleasure, and not for the attention of others. Of course I am very happy when people comment on my work, but most of the fun comes from writing.

A couple of times I have mentioned that I don't much care for AU's and hardly ever read them.
However the past few days I have been in desperate need of distraction and was browsing for a nice long fic.  

I've also had it in the back of my mind that I really should read one of the most famous fics in all of Sherlock fandom.

.......and that's how I FINALLY got around to reading Performace in a Leading Role.

What can I say about this fic that hasn't already been said?  I giggled, I swooned, I cried like a baby.
it would be a wondeful story regardless but the best thing about it was that the characters of John and Sherlock WERE TOTALLY John and Sherlock.  And even the supporting characters felt true, changed only enough to fit them into the world of the story.  I especially loved Irene Adler high on Rockstar and barging into J&S's bedroom!

Anyway, I don't know if I'll suddenly start reading a lot of AU's but PIALR was outstanding and provided me with several days of most welcome distraction.

 

tonnaree wrote:

A couple of times I have mentioned that I don't much care for AU's and hardly ever read them.
However the past few days I have been in desperate need of distraction and was browsing for a nice long fic.  

I've also had it in the back of my mind that I really should read one of the most famous fics in all of Sherlock fandom.

.......and that's how I FINALLY got around to reading Performace in a Leading Role.

What can I say about this fic that hasn't already been said?  I giggled, I swooned, I cried like a baby.
it would be a wondeful story regardless but the best thing about it was that the characters of John and Sherlock WERE TOTALLY John and Sherlock.  And even the supporting characters felt true, changed only enough to fit them into the world of the story.  I especially loved Irene Adler high on Rockstar and barging into J&S's bedroom!

Anyway, I don't know if I'll suddenly start reading a lot of AU's but PIALR was outstanding and provided me with several days of most welcome distraction.

 

That story was my introduction to this fandom. I've read it three times, it is so amazing.

I absolutely agree with you and would not read such fics. 

tonnaree wrote:

Minor rant.

Please note this is a PERSONAL opinion and I hold no ill will against anyone who disagress.

I truly do not like Real Person Fic.  I ship John and Sherlock, Not Ben and Martin.

Now this is not to say I've never had fantasies about the actors.  I'm only human.  I don't even have a problem with writing them down for private pleasure.  However, there's somethig about publishing them for the whole world to see that feels like crossing a line to me.

/end rant/

me too. But what did bring you to "rant" about this? Did you come across this type of storys recently?

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I don't read Ben/Martin fics or similar things nowadays, but I did read a lot of real people fan fiction in my teenage years and don't see anything wrong with it. As long as you're aware it's just fiction and don't confuse it with reality, what's the problem?