Exactly. I am sometimes getting a bit tired of posting all the evidence only to hear "that is not what they intended", "it will never happen", "it is just bromance". Especially regarding what Mycroft says about coincidence. 

Despite my stance on Johnlock, I never said that Johnlockers never had scenes(though, I read some meta that goes overboard as well as shove Sherlock or John in scenes that make no sense in context but try to destroy the chemistry of another character between these two). There are loads of them because Sherlock and John are basicially the main characters. I do feel like you guys are being strung along. Since S3, I know a lot have been convinced Johnlock would happen, but I feel like you guys are going to be told by the writers: "What? You thought we would actually put these two together? Not what we intend! Sorry."

Topic?

Oh, I would like for Sherlock to have sex.   

Harriet wrote:

Agree. And when I think of arguments like "I just don't want it to be like that", I wonder who is actually making things up.

How does someone who feels strongly "I don't want it to be like that" even watch the show?  The whole show reeks of Johnlock, maybe not in every scene, but in a large portion of them. I don't think I'd watch a show where something was so blatant but that I objected to. I do wonder why the no-johnlock people are even watching. Or how they can.
 

tonnaree wrote:

Topic? Oh, I would like for Sherlock to have sex.   

With John.

There, we kept it on topic, and got our johnlock agenda out there as well.  heh
 

Yes, tonnaree. They love each other, but they are not in love. 

And where exactly do you see this view represented in the show? I only see what may be insecurity and a distancing from emotions in general, at least in series 1. 

SusiGo wrote:

And where exactly do you see this view represented in the show? I only see what may be insecurity and a distancing from emotions in general, at least in series 1. 

I don't see insecurity in Series 1 Sherlock. He's so overconfident in TSiP and TGG especially. Also, due to the fact that when he mentions sentiment or love, he views such negative light like when he says "Love is a Much More Vicious Motivator".  He distances his emotions because he views them as distractions towards his work like love, guilt, caring. But of course, we do see it seep through now and again.

In Series 2, his comment he says: If I wanted to look at naked woman, I would borrow John's laptop.

He seems to be like rolling his eyes mentally, scoffing not the fact it is women, but the fact that John succumbs to such desires so easily. 

@mrshouse: Sex does alarm him, especially the expression on his face when Mycroft says it as well as how when sex is mentioned, he is shocked and awkward. 

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SusiGo wrote:

Awkward, this is what I wanted to say when I mentioned insecurity. Always in connection with women, btw. Not with John at Angelo's, not when Jim from IT hits on him.

Yeah. Girlfriends are not really his area. But I see that statement towards Sherlock's view on women, which seemed to one of distrust and not knowing women well, which improves in Series 2. 

His expression when he found Jim's number under the dish before he told Molly was one of shock.

And as for series 1 - I do indeed see insecurity (I am not talking about sex here). The look on his face in TBB when he introduces John and is reduced from "friend" to "colleague" in front of a smirking Seb. In TGG(?) when they poke fun at him at the yard because John mentioned his ignorance of astronomy in the blog. And these are just two examples. Of course he is confident but only as long as he can revel in his own deductions and show his brilliance. 

Oh! I was referencing insecurity in sex, not those scenes. No, I agree with you on those scenes. Sherlock really seemed insecure and vulnerable in dealing with Seb. Though, in TGG, he seems really frustrated at John for mentioning his lack of knowledge of any department. 

 

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LoveIsAViciousMotivator wrote:

His expression when he found Jim's number under the dish before he told Molly was one of shock.

We really must be watching different shows then, because I don't see the slightest hint of shock there. He takes the card with the number from under the dish in a matter of fact kind of way. He already gave Molly evidence for why Jim is gay, and this is just another piece of evidence.
I see lots of things in that scene, but no shock, at least not on Sherlock's side. Molly on the other hand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEcYGe0hzrw