RavenMorganLeigh wrote:

Whisky wrote:

RavenMorganLeigh wrote:

Question on whether an apology is acceptable: If someone walked up, slapped you really, really hard in the face, ( for something that wasn't your fault!) and then said to you, " I'm sorry___, I truly am", how seriously would you take that apology? Would you be in a hurry to forgive? Just asking.

 
you are leaving out how the person is under lots of pressure, emotional confusion, fear of loosing a loved one, forced into a decision she maybe rather wouldn't do.

The scenario you describe, leaving out the rest, would indeed make an apology look stupid.

I just think there's a bit more going okn here.
The least I would say for Marys sake is that she doesn't shoot Sherlock for the fun of it. She has got reasons. How we judge this reasons... different story again.

I'm not sure it makes Mary seem more palatable to give her excuses that don't even exist in canon? Unless she was having a psychotic break?

Her "sorry" is extremely arrogant and condescending, by the way--as if she were a parent spanking a child, "this will hurt me more than it does you, " or, even worse, the abusive husband who tells his wife after he beats her,"Sorry.I truly am".

I think to try to get to know the character of a person, reasons are important. They can tell a lot. To look at the  actions is one thing, and an easy way to judge a character.
 But that's like saying: okay, Mary is a bad girl. Fullstop.

I would always ask for reasons. Because i don't believe in people doing bad stuff for the fun of it. Doing so doesn't equal justification, though, which I feel is what you are worried about?

What do you mean with "excuses that don't exist in canon"?



I don't think he's throwing sherlock under a bus, no. I think John doesn't make any conscious choice. He loves Mary (apparently, for reasons), and decides Sherlock will be his friend anyway. Sherlock's comittment to John is sth which John doesn't see, or at lea

RavenMorganLeigh wrote:

Question on whether an apology is acceptable: If someone walked up, slapped you really, really hard in the face, ( for something that wasn't your fault!) and then said to you, " I'm sorry___, I truly am", how seriously would you take that apology? Would you be in a hurry to forgive? Just asking.

 
you are leaving out how the person is under lots of pressure, emotional confusion, fear of loosing a loved one, forced into a decision she maybe rather wouldn't do.

The scenario you describe, leaving out the rest, would indeed make an apology look stupid.

I just think there's a bit more going okn here.
The least I would say for Marys sake is that she doesn't shoot Sherlock for the fun of it. She has got reasons. How we judge this reasons... different story again.

When John forces out his forgiveness in the underground carriage, it feels like it takes him a lot of effort. I also see this effort in his speech at christmas. It took him months to get there, and he struggles with the words. So I feel both is genuine.



I think John just accepts that people like Mary and Sherlock are just the way they are. With their flaws. I don't see ignorance or not-caring, I see acceptance.

And I think their similarities are also the reason why they get along, and why Sherlock forgives Mary. I cannot imagine how Mary comes up to Sherlock and apologizes with flowery words. He wouldn't care for it. Maybe she knows that. I think he takes her apology serious... as soon as he understands the backround, later.


I find it interesting how Sherlock's Mum reacts to Mary. I think she likes her. And not because she belongs to John who belongs to Sherlock. I get a feeling she just thinks Mary is nice. Likeable.

we don't get Mrs. Hudons reaction after the reveal. I'd like to see that.

Wow, that's interesting. Never saw it!

Maybe they counted on nobody realising. The scene is so dramatic, everyones attention is elsewhere.

I did notice it at Sherlock's parents house. But I thought it was an english thing. In my mind, England is always green  .

But I know from first hand experience that yes, even english trees eventually loose their leaves in december 

The mind palace, I'm not sure. Then Sherlock could also imagine the proper season. Or do you mean like it's just a hint to the viewers? I'm not so sure more mind palace makes sense, actually. The story since TAB is complex enough as it is, imo :-)

omg noooo!

Thanks. Yes, gummibärchen brain is a fitting word!

Yes, I think changing little things is for compatibility reasons mainly. I think it's their need to stay up to date, which for them is more important than to think about users who don't update to every little new thing there is or use older devices or just like the old interface. If it annoys users, it's definitely not very clever what they're doing   But then again, I don't know much about programming. Guess they cannot make it work for everyone.
Also, often I think they want to force users to update, in making the use of older devices/browser versions etc etc less comfortable. Or it's a design thing. I feel like design is really important nowadays. Everything has to look modern, apparently.
 

@phantom: I totally understand you. At least there should have been a notice with a big apology and a date when it will be fixed (preferably very soon). (And definitely a phone number or else for wheelchair users to ask for help.) Don't feel bad. In your case, I would also have complained.

Now, compared to your condition, I shouldn't even complain...
caught a cold that decided to stick for three weeks now. I enjoy the attention I get from people looking worridly at me in the street and the lack of proper sleep. Not. And I'm fed up with sitting around, but my head is like jellygumthings, so nothing productive gets done. And I'm taking like everything that could help but nothing does... How do people do this. I'm like Sherlock in any fanfic - totally useless patient, and terribly grumpy :-/
(I'm even watching Germanys next top model and worried I will watch the Bachelor next, or even switch on RTL during the day... oh nooo. Germans will know what I'm talking about... killing brain cells systematically...)
 

I can accept people die. But doesn't mean I'll ever get used to it. Sudden deaths of not-so-old people, it's really happening too often.
Makes me sad, to hear the news.
the music gave me a sense of trancendence. I crave that in music. And whoever can evoke such a feeling through music, is a great artist imo.

Sherlock, angry: 
* what is it with this solar system? I'm unbuttoning my coat with my sexy leather gloves, and he is staring at the stars instead!! *

I like the idea of Molly's involvement!

Have to say though, that Molly probably still has her own interests in mind,
so wouldn't necessarily encourage Sherlock to get going with John... ;-)