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His Last Vow » Question-- Just how long was Sherlock in the hospital? » January 31, 2014 6:47 pm

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Tinks wrote:

Did he not turn the drip back on while Janine was there, rather than increase the dose? She'd turned it off while he was sleeping, hadn't she?
Then she leaves, and he resolves to do what he needs to do to help Mary - something Janine says to him seems to make it clear to him what action to take - he then turns the morphine off so he can remove his drips and leave the Hospital.

If you watch again, the graphic that pops up shows that he increases the level of morphine from very low to near maximum after Janine says she "might have fiddled with the taps." And Janine does glance over to the perfusion readout when he does so. Once she leaves, he turns the level down, although not to the same level as Janine had it. He doesn't turn it off completely on screen.

His Last Vow » Question-- Just how long was Sherlock in the hospital? » January 31, 2014 1:58 am

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Lily wrote:

liederlady221b wrote:

TeeJay wrote:


Also, I don't think Janine had switched off the morphine. If you look closely, he just ups the dosage from a low to a rather high setting. Either he reduced it himself while Janine was there to make sure he wasn't loopy, or the doctors did that, and Sherlock just increased the dosage because he was in a lot of pain and didn't want Janine to see it.

Well, he initially ups the dosage while Janine is there to give her the impression that he's feeding his addiction (in the event she might relay that info to Magnussen or the press). As soon as she leaves, he lowers the dose significantly.

I didn't get the impression that he changed the dosage to give Janine a certain impression but simply because he was in pain. He then lowered it because he realised that he needed to think clearly to figure out what was going on with Mary (a thought that had been triggered by Janine mentioning her).

Do we really think Sherlock is so engrossed in his conversation w/Janine that he's forgotten the reason he's in that hospital bed--Mary? Doubt that. There's no other reason for him to turn up the drip to such a high dose while Janine is there, but significantly lower the dose the moment she leaves. He increases his dosage when he meets Magnussen at the diner too--again, to reinforce the idea that he's a junkie.
 

His Last Vow » Question-- Just how long was Sherlock in the hospital? » January 31, 2014 12:43 am

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TeeJay wrote:

besleybean wrote:

I took it he was merely switching the drip back on, that Janine had switched off.

Also, I don't think Janine had switched off the morphine. If you look closely, he just ups the dosage from a low to a rather high setting. Either he reduced it himself while Janine was there to make sure he wasn't loopy, or the doctors did that, and Sherlock just increased the dosage because he was in a lot of pain and didn't want Janine to see it.

Well, he initially ups the dosage while Janine is there to give her the impression that he's feeding his addiction (in the event she might relay that info to Magnussen or the press). As soon as she leaves, he lowers the dose significantly.

His Last Vow » A.G.R.A » January 30, 2014 2:52 am

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Willow wrote:

CAM got the information from somewhere, even if he didn't have a dead mans switch arrangement; the only sense I can make of Mary carting incriminating evidence against her around with her, instead of destroying it, is that she hoped to deduce his sources from the internal evidence on the memory stick.

Of course, her reason for that is murky unless she proposes to kill the sources; they remain a danger to her, and whilst I understand John's desire to protect the mother of his child I do not think he is up for premeditated murder.

Yes to all of this. I thought it extremely suspect that an intelligence agent/killer for hire would just be carrying around all the info about her (horrible) past. It's not like there was an interval between the trip from Leinister Gardens to Baker Street for Mary to go and pick it up from her secret agent safety deposit box! She either got the stick from the same resource as Magnussen (and possibly killed whoever that was) and/or she took the memory stick with her to lure Sherlock during their meeting. However, it's just as possible that the stick was empty, and she was gambling on John's love for the baby (if not for her). John's very much an open book to those close to him.

Speaking of baby, while reading through the comments for this panel, I'm beginning to theorize that the "lost treasure" may be symbolic of John's happiness and desire for a family.

Killing off a pregnant woman seems a bit extreme for the show. But having circumstances of Mary's past forcing her to flee with baby in tow (a la the bogus Adler "witness protection scheme") seems a kinder, gentler means of disposal. Perhaps John can't join them because he'd somehow further imperil his wife and child (being too recognizable as Sherlock Holmes' sidekick?), or Mycroft may simply issue her an ultimatum and that John won't be part of the package (because it's obvious Sherlock needs John in his life). This scenario would still provide the emotional damage

His Last Vow » How could Mary be connected with TRF? » January 30, 2014 1:48 am

Willow wrote:

 
We don't know that Mycroft didn't run a background check on Mary; I wrote about this on the AGRA thread, so I won't repeat it here, but Mycroft would not have been babysitting John in Sherlock's absence. He would check, but that doesn't mean that he would do anything about the information. He doesn't do rescuing damsels in distress, John being the damsel in this instance.

I agree that killing John is highly implausible; however, a consulting master criminal with a world wide network would undoubtedly have information about people prepared to murder for money. It would be exceedingly strange if he didn't; it may be that Mary was linked to Moriarty in that way, simply as a potential resource. The one thing I am sure of is that we are going to learn a lot more about Mary in S4

I tend to agree. Sherlock said Mary acquired Mary Morstan's name and date of birth 5 years prior to his shooting in HLV "and thereafter her identity." I keep wondering whether Mary could have been Moriarty's main sniper in TGG (the sniper who killed the old blind lady and all the other people in that block of flats; possibly one of the snipers at the pool too). Magnussen does mention that she went "freelance." It's possible Jim may have used her services prior to TGG and pressed her back into service when he went on his bombing spree game with Sherlock.

I also find it impossible to believe that Mycroft would not have investigated Mary's background, particularly once he knew Sherlock was returning to London (and John). I mean, the man kidnapped John and tested his integrity with a bribe the night after our good doctor met Sherlock. He'd certainly investigate someone who was becoming close to his brother, albeit through John. Unless, of course, Mycroft already knew who and what Mary was. She may have freelanced for him. Perhaps she was the person who "persuaded" John's sniper to step down in TRF?

Additionally, if John could figure out that Sherlock was protecting

Introductions Please... » Hearty Greetings from Pittsburgh, USA » January 20, 2014 8:51 pm

Russell wrote:

I've been absent, but just wanted to chime in with a greet as well and say wow, that was quite an intro! A lot of amazing creations of a favorite original, huh? Look forward to joining in discussion, and agree - Ben was something else as the Creature, wasn't he? Cheers!

He was, indeed, Russell. Thanks for the greeting!

Meet The Members » Meet the Members! » January 15, 2014 1:02 am

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Hudders wrote:

TeeJay wrote:

This is kind of random, but here's what happened this morning in my office. (I share an office room with a very lovely lad called Thomas who is very well aware and tolerant of my TV geek tendencies.)

9:28am, I get into the office. Thomas isn't there. I quietly boot up the computer, check some e-mails. He's probably in a meeting.
9:57am. Thomas comes in, we exchange good mornings, he asks how I am.

Me: The season 3 finale of Sherlock aired last night, and I'm still alive.
Him: We've seen each other for barely 30 seconds, and already you're talking about Sherlock.

Yes, that pretty much defines our office conversations these days.

 
Seems familiar to me
My mom caught me from work and after saying hello I started with Sherlock. The same when my husband came from work. This show makes me go insane

Oh, yeah. My Sherlock/Ben filter often fails. Great to know I'm not alone.

Introductions Please... » Hearty Greetings from Pittsburgh, USA » January 15, 2014 12:55 am

sj4iy wrote:

Hello and welcome from a fellow Pittsburgher :D

Hey there! I like your signature--what a chilling scene that was!

General Sherlock Discussion » Funniest moments in any episode » January 15, 2014 12:52 am

These are all so great!

And here's one that had me choking on Sunday night: BAMF!John getting his adrenalin fix at the crack house. I have to include the whole thing because . . . sooo many great quips, John!

Wiggins: Ya gotta go. No one's allowed here.
John: Isaac Whitney? Have you seen him?
Wiggins pulls a switchblade knife.
John (testily): I'm asking you if you've seen Isaac Whitney and now you're showing me a knife. Is it a clue?
Wiggins makes slashing motions with the knife, indicating John should leave.
John: Are you doing a mime?
Wiggins: Go! Or I'll cut ya.
John: Ohhh, not from there. Let me help.
Strides within reach of Wiggins.
John (reaching critical mass): Now, concentrate. (very pointedly) Isaac Whitney.
Wiggins: Okay. You asked fer it.
John casually disarms Wiggins at warp speed, uses a throat hold to slam him against the wall, kicks his legs out from under him then picks up the dropped switchblade.
John: Right. Are you concentrating yet?
Wiggins (barely able to wail): You broke my arm!
John: Nope, I sprained it.
Wiggins: It feels squishy! Is it supposed to feel squishy? (presenting said arm to John) Feel that!
John (feeling Wiggins' arm): Yeah, it's a sprain. I'm a doctor. I know how to sprain people. Now where is Isaac Whitney?
Wiggins: I don't know! (John offers him a dubious look) Maybe upstairs.
John: There ya go. (slaps Wiggins' leg good-naturedly) Now wasn't that easy?
Wiggins: No, it was really sore. You're mental, you are.
John (heading up the stairs): Nope. Just used to a better class of criminal.


 

Meet The Members » Meet the Members! » January 12, 2014 9:45 pm

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Hello! I'm liederlady221b, but I also answer to D.

-I'm from Pittsburgh, born and raised.
-I'm 56, female, single, an editor by trade (business writing), and adore the well-written word, which is why Doyle appealed to me at an early age (11).
-I'm a Virgo, and a perfectionist, but don't really follow astrology.
-I was born on the same day Jack the Ripper killed his first victim (but 69 years later), but I'm not certain that's why I like learning about real-life crimes or favor a certain consulting detective (who loves serial killers). One never knows though.
-Sherlock initially wanted to be a pirate; I wanted to be a veterinarian until, at age 6, someone mean told me I'd have to euthanize animals. After that, I wanted to write and my first story was about animals (not a hound, though). 
-Real life issues (caregiving, work, illness, work, school) has often sidetracked my love of Sherlock Holmes and classic Holmes interpretations, but I'm still going strong for BBC Sherlock (and Benedict) after three-and-a-half years.
-I love reading good Sherlock Holmes fan fiction, general and slash, and have written several slash stories. I ship H/W, S/J.
-My pseudonym is inspired by canon.
-I love Shakespeare; Hamlet is my favorite of his works.
-I also love Dickens, and Nicholas Nickleby and A Tale of Two Cities are my Dickensian faves.
-I love live theater; the last plays I saw were August: Osage County (yes, because of Ben) and War Horse (no, I loved it before he was cast).
-I LOVE the many in-jokes and canon references Gatiss and Moffat work in to the Sherlock episodes (I'm still squeeing over Baron Maupertius and his "colossal" scheme!).
-I don't watch much TV anymore because of reality crap and lack of good writing in non-reality crap, it's mostly PBS stuff, The Good Wife, Mad Men, and vintage films (mostly from the 30s through the 60s). I try to catch Big Bang The

Introductions Please... » Hearty Greetings from Pittsburgh, USA » January 12, 2014 8:22 pm

Hi, all. First, thanks to all who set up and participate in this forum. And advance apologies for any gaffes I may unwittingly commit, not to mention this lengthy intro.
 
I hail from across the Pond in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA. I’ve been a Sherlock Holmes fan, off and on, since I was almost 12 years old (circa 1969). Prior to discovering there were actual written stories, I thought the character was a Hollywood creation, that Basil Rathbone was the sole embodiment of the detective, and that Nigel Bruce’s blundering, comedic-foil portrayal of Watson was authentic.
 
Well, we live and learn, yes?
 
The first Holmes story I read was “The Adventure of the Three Garridebs,” and it achieved two things: 1) I learned that Doctor John H. Watson was no idiot; and 2) that story would become the impetus for my affinity for close male/male friendships (for a long time, platonic friendships, but that would change). Thus, it’s the inspiration for my forum signature. A few months after I discovered Holmes and Watson, I became a Star Trek fan—no need to elaborate on that famous fandom ship.
 
The friendship between the detective and the doctor wasn’t the only aspect that appealed to me in the stories. Conan Doyle’s wonderful prose, the moody Victorian plots, and the characters’ sheer domesticity (even when the boys weren't sharing a flat) drew me in. Honestly, doesn’t the idea of spending time with those two men in 221B (in any era) sound like a blast? You can imagine the Christmas dinners! It’s also the reason they’re still relevant and so beloved 126 years on.
 
Fast forward to 1984: I was channel surfing for something to watch on our local PBS TV station when I came across a show that was obviously period—a drop-dead gorgeous, aristocratic, dark-haired man in Victorian gentleman’s garb was sitting in front of a fireplace with his hands steepled in thought. I stopped channel

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