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February 11, 2017 10:22 pm  #21


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

besleybean wrote:

I wonder why they would show John dating women, marrying a woman and wanting an affair with a woman, if they wanted to show him bi or gay.
Or in fact to follow the last allusion: if they didn't want to show him as straight.

You mean authors just write those things in because they want us to think the very opposite?
 


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February 11, 2017 10:24 pm  #22


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

No, I don't.
So following your question, Moriarty could be gay and I have already said that...
But the weird dance with Eurus was my only question on that and also(actually) why 'pretend' to be gay in TGG?


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February 11, 2017 10:26 pm  #23


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

besleybean wrote:

No, I don't.
So following your question, Moriarty could be gay and I have already said that...
But the weird dance with Eurus was my only question on that and also(actually) why 'pretend' to be gay in TGG?

How do we know he "pretended"?
Sherlock deduced him - he could be right in his deduction?
 


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February 11, 2017 10:28 pm  #24


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

He could be.
But then why did he say to Sherlock he was pretending?


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February 11, 2017 10:34 pm  #25


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

besleybean wrote:

He could be.
But then why did he say to Sherlock he was pretending?

He pretended to be an IT guy, but for his disguise to really work, some traits of his personality were probably real.
 


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February 11, 2017 10:36 pm  #26


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

Again, possibly so.
But he specifically says to Sherlock: pretending to be gay.


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February 12, 2017 12:19 am  #27


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

Yes, he acted gay.  Sherlock deduced the surface, and missed the big picture.  It doesn't mean Moriarty isn't gay, of course.   But I do think he was toying with Sherlock there.  It was deliberate. 

 

February 12, 2017 2:39 pm  #28


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

I don't know, it's really difficult to label him.

​I see his "attraction" to Sherlock the way I see Sherlock's "attraction" to Irene. Mostly intellectual attraction. Possibly some sexual tension. Less probably love. But I could be wrong of course.

Like Sherlock, I think he is more attracted to people's mind than to their physical appearance or whatever. Which would explain his little "dance" with Eurus because gender wouldn't be an issue (even if I agree we him apparently more attracted to men)

​It seems like sex is just a game for him. Something he uses to provoke people, make them uncomfortable, a power "thing" but also something which simply seems to excite him (i.e, if Mycroft had replied to his "How'd you want me?" question with something like "My desk. Right now", I could easily picture him getting all excited, "wooohooo!" and starting to get undressed, just like I could also imagine him having crazy hungry sex with Eurus. And he apparently doesn't mind sleeping with his bodyguards)

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February 12, 2017 2:42 pm  #29


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Exactly and I still wonder who wrote that line, my favourite:  how do you want me? Andrew plays it so well.


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February 13, 2017 5:42 am  #30


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Why does he have to get a label?

If "Sherlock" shows us one thing, it is that the characters' sexual orientations can't be labeled properly. Take Irene, for example. She calls herself gay, yet she's attracted to Sherlock, maybe to his intellect, maybe to his body, who knows.

Or take John. He is shown being interested on women, yet there is eyesex and stuff.

So why is it so important for everyone to label the characters' orientation? I don't get it.


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February 13, 2017 7:07 am  #31


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I agree, and I'm against labels as well.


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February 13, 2017 8:20 am  #32


Re: Moriarty's Sexuality

I think many of us have said this and is possibly also why Andrew doesn't want to voice his own views.


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