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Martin Freeman » New series 'Start Up' with Martin Freeman » Today 8:07 pm

Lautrela
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Can't wait for season 2 ! The story well written so far, plus all the actors are very good.
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General Benedict Appreciation » Favourite Sherlock/Benedict pictures » Today 7:43 pm

The Ben one is so warm and toasty!

And I loved him in Little Favour. I need to watch that again, as well! 

Martin Freeman » New series 'Start Up' with Martin Freeman » Today 7:30 pm

Vhanja
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I just watched the first episode of this. Oh, my... *fans herself* Darn, Martin is hot as a bad guy! 

Benedict's Press » Welcome to Hal Auden Cumberbatch! » Today 6:47 pm

SusiGo
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Here is a link to People magazine, confirming the news and also that Sophie has officially changed her name to Cumberbatch: 

http://people.com/babies/benedict-cumberbatch-and-sophie-hunter-welcome-second-son/

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 6:42 pm

Liberty
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I don't think there's any subterfuge about S5 either.  I think it's probably just as they say - they'd love to carry on, but it seems that it might be too difficult to make it happen.  So they've given us something that feels like an ending, if they don't make any more, but is a great starting point if they do - no loose ends to tidy up, no cliffhanger, no ongoing story.  They can go wherever they want with S5.

I think the change of tone was fine ... the Rathbone/Bruce films played with supernatural/horror elements (as did ACD himself, I suppose). 

I've always thought there was a kind of fantasy element to the series, and I suppose they've just expanded that in TFP.  I never did really feel that Sherlock actually existed in our world.  It kind of makes sense for him to have a superhero/comic book style beginning.  I can really picture TFP as a graphic novel.

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 6:09 pm

Vhanja
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SusiGo: Well, then we are back to the question of the thread. I have no problem seeing this as the end of the story, at least the origin story of Sherlock (and John). Wherever they go from here, if we get more seasons, will be a new start. The chapters/part about Sherlock's origin story, and becoming the Sherlock Holmes we know from the ACD-stories and other interpretations, is now over,. And we might, or might not, get a new part of their story. And I am fine with that.

I don't think they can say anything else about it, to be honest. I don't think neither Ben nor Martin wants to give a definite yes or no yet. I don't think either of them totally dismisses making a new seaons, but that they are both ready to look to other projects for a while, so they don't want to make any more Sherlock commitment at the moment. Something I completely understand. They are both rising stars, and have so much going for them, career-wise. I wish them all the best in their future projects. 

Perhaps the dust will settle a bit some years for now, and everyone is ready to make another season. If that happens, I will be thrilled. But I am not waiting around for it. As far as I see it, BBC Sherlock is over - at least for now. And I am very much content with the origin story we got. It's new, it's original and it has some great characterisations and developments.

It's certainly not perfect, but nothing is. To me, the pros more than outweigh the cons.

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 6:04 pm

SusiGo
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Vhanja: You know what my problem with this attitude (theirs, not yours) is? You can do this with a show that has episodes that can stand alone, that are independent from each other or the next series or the one before. In Sherlock, however, they are telling a more or less continuous story. It is open to discussion if TFP is a proper final episode or not. To me it feels as if five minutes before the end they had become anxious and had slapped on the DVD, just in case that this was the real end. 

Rache: It may have been me who said that it it did not feel like Sherlock and I still think so. To me, TFP is like a foreign body in the show and it feels far more alien than TAB ever did. Because TAB felt like Sherlock Holmes to me and TFP does not. 
 

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 6:03 pm

Vhanja
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I think Sherlock was so terrified of Moriarty because he reminded him of himself - if he had become the "sosiopath" he originally wanted to be. Sherlock and Moriarty are more or less two sides of a coin the way I see it. And Sherlock was very intrigued by Moriarty - perhaps that scared him a bit too?

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 5:56 pm

JP
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^ This. Also they dropped Moriarty half way of his "second story arch" (the first being S1-S2). There are still details that weren't resolved. Like why Sherlock was so terrified of him (the moment in HOB when he sees his face while under drugs, and the padded cell scene, Jim appearing in TAB and the miss me thing). BTW, how could Mary know about "miss me" at all?
I even wonder how the story would work, if Jim took place of Eurus as the cause of the childhood trauma, and it would be him who Sherlock erased from his memory.

Fan Art » Fan art » Today 5:56 pm

Vhanja
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And now I am dying of curiousity from all your comments, and the page won't load. *pouts*

Edit: Oh, there we go. Oh, wow. That's creative. And beautifully drawn. Just like everything else on that blog from what I can see.

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 5:54 pm

Vhanja
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I don't see them as not being honest about whether or not there will be another season. They all say the same thing - they love the show, they would love to make more, but they would have to wait and see because they all are busy doing other things for the foreseeable future. There is nothing about that statement that I find hard to believe.

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 5:21 pm

Rache
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Hard question.
In my first or second posting in the topic concerning TFP, I wrote, that this episode was different. (I mean very different! Not only the "series 3 and 4 as a whole have been different as well" talking.) I wrote, that it would be hard to watch TFP a second time and that I don't know if I ever will. I stayed true to that, at least until today. (I will 100% watch it when the German dub comes out. I don't know if you can understand it, but for me this would count to the first and only viewing as well. Because for me, it is a different feeling to watch something in your mother tongue. So it would still be the first viewing of something.)
So, yeah I only watched TFP once. I saw some people's reaction videos or fan videos with short scenes on youtube, but never the whole thing after the first viewing. I was so drained and exhausted (and happy) by the emotional impact this episode had on me.

And I think my answer to this thread's question is that I can accept it as an ending to the series. But, pure and simple, I cannot say that I am satisfied or content.

Something's missing or something isn't right about it.
My main issue is, that TFP doesn't have the Sherlock feeling to it, as somebody already said so here in this thread. Series 1-3 all had it and TLD had it very much, and btw from T6T the Sherlock feeling was missing, too. A finale should have the Sherlock feeling. And Eurus... well, I'm not content with Eurus. For me it still is a bit like: what kind of character is that supposed to be??? I don't understand how her character is supposed to work in the show that we have been watching for 11(+1 special) episodes. I don't see her fitting in the Sherlock universe and I don't like her being the main focus and being the solution to "everything". That she is supposed the one, that everything is resolving around now. A device picked up from out of nowhere (those vague and very brief mentions of "Redbeard" don't count.) to force Sherlock's (and John's, Mycroft'

Fan Videos » CatnappleFanTV | Sherlock fanvideo channel | newest one: Johnlock » Today 12:27 pm

Dumai
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Short take on the relationship between Sherlock and Mycroft




Oh, and for those of you who are interested in Sherlock's Gingernuts:




;) Enjoy

The Final Problem » Are you satisfied with TFP as an ending for the series? » Today 10:12 am

SusiGo
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I would just for wish for a little honesty - with Doctor Who, it was no problem to tell fans that Steven would leave the show. Sure, it is different since DW is going to continue whereas Sherlock would not. Still, I think it would be honest and professional to tell people if and when something is over. And I am addressing the creators as well as the BBC. 
And in this context I wonder about this sales presentation in February. Why all that fuss for a show that was not going to continue? Why advertise something that is not for sale anymore?
 

Benedict's Press » Welcome to Hal Auden Cumberbatch! » Today 8:17 am

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Beautiful news! Congratulations to the happy parents! http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

Other Adaptations » Jeremy Brett Picture Thread » Today 8:10 am

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