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**Posted by kazza474** June 14, 2012 10:54 am

The Emmy nominations this year will be announced on July 19th & presented in September.

Here's an article on what's possible for nominations:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/televisionawards/emmys/story/2012-06-13/emmy-ballot/55587248/1

Excerpt of our 'chosen categories':

Movie or miniseries: Sherlock (PBS); Game Change (HBO); Hatfields & McCoys (History); American Horror Story (FX); Hemingway & Gellhorn (HBO); Luther (BBC America)

Here's a truth that applies across the movie and miniseries categories. Outside of Hatfields & McCoys, viewers won't care, because that's the only one sizable numbers of them saw. And outside of Sherlock, Luther and Game Change, I don't much care, either. Anyone and anything else is pretty much just filling the spaces.

Movie/miniseries actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock (PBS); Idris Elba, Luther (BBC America); Woody Harrelson, Game Change (HBO); Kevin Costner, Hatfields & McCoys (History); Alan Rickman, The Song of Lunch (PBS)

When the time comes to give the Emmy out, I'll have my fingers crossed for Cumberbatch. But when the nominations are announced, I'll also be rooting for Rickman to slip in for a lovely performance in PBS' strange, generally ignored Song of Lunch.

Movie/miniseries, supporting actor: Ed Harris, Game Change (HBO); Martin Freeman, Sherlock (PBS); Denis O'Hare, American Horror Story (FX); Paul Blackthorne, The River (ABC)

Harris will be nominated; Freeman had better be. Beyond that, you're on your own.

Movie/miniseries, supporting actress: Jessica Lange, American Horror Story (FX); Sarah Paulson, Game Change (HBO); Gillian Anderson, Great Expectations (PBS); Frances Conroy, American Horror Story; Lara Pulver, Sherlock (PBS)

From what I can tell, the official Emmy ballot doesn't include Sherlock's Mrs. Hudson, Una "Not Your Housekeeper" Stubbs. More's the pity.

hmm

**Posted by Sentimental Pulse** June 14, 2012 11:01 am

I've seen Game Change , Hatfields and McCoys, The River and American Horror Story and none are close to being on par with Sherlock. If Sherlock and Ben do not win, it is a travesty.

**Posted by kazza474** June 14, 2012 11:08 am

Luther is rather brilliant actually.
Much 'darker' than Sherlock so not as popular with the younger viewers.

But then it's not up to the fans to vote thank heavens.
I love industry based awards; much better acknowledgement than 'who can get the most fans to vote/go broke voting/spread as much stuff online in desperate attempts/ etc etc etc' .

**Posted by Fetchinketch** July 1, 2012 4:53 pm

According to the deadline.com article, Masterpiece chose to submit A Scandal in Belgravia for Series 2. Why not The Reichenbach Fall? Too intense for the average viewer? Don't get me wrong, I love aSiB, but I don't think it holds a candle to TRF. I certainly hope that they submit Martin's work from TRF for his nomination.

Any thoughts?

**Posted by Molly Hooper** July 1, 2012 5:13 pm

Well Scandal did have the highest number of viewers, didn't it?

**Posted by Davina** July 1, 2012 7:03 pm

It did and perhaps it is more a stand-alone piece. It has everything, including American involvement...remember Mrs. Hudson's bins.

**Posted by Sentimental Pulse** July 1, 2012 7:16 pm

Fetchinketch wrote:
According to the deadline.com article, Masterpiece chose to submit A Scandal in Belgravia for Series 2. Why not The Reichenbach Fall? Too intense for the average viewer? Don't get me wrong, I love aSiB, but I don't think it holds a candle to TRF. I certainly hope that they submit Martin's work from TRF for his nomination.

Any thoughts?

I respectfully disagree. Reichenbach is more dramatic but Sherlock Holmes spends much of Reichenbach being a reactive victim to all the false claims and Moriarty's shenanigans happening around him. Reichenbach is the Jim Moriarty show pure and simple. SiB in my opinion is a far better battle of two evenly matched iconic adversaries and has an added romantic element to it. I know the canonites detest the romantic angle but it added a lot to the drama and conflict.

**Posted by Irene Adler** July 1, 2012 10:48 pm

Molly Hooper wrote:
Well Scandal did have the highest number of viewers, didn't it?

Yes, but I think the "battle dress" had a lot to do with this

I would also have submitted TRF, for me it is a better episode, but they did the same for the BAFTAs, didn't they? Anyway, if they submit TRF for actors work, Martin will have again a strong competence in Mr Scott (how awesome is he... )

**Posted by Sentimental Pulse** July 2, 2012 1:21 am

Irene Adler wrote:
Molly Hooper wrote:
Well Scandal did have the highest number of viewers, didn't it?
Yes, but I think the "battle dress" had a lot to do with this

I would also have submitted TRF, for me it is a better episode, but they did the same for the BAFTAs, didn't they? Anyway, if they submit TRF for actors work, Martin will have again a strong competence in Mr Scott (how awesome is he... )

Since I am an unabashed Lara fanatic you bring up a point that we here all realize but i am fearing the masses may not. Her acting in that episode was beyond superb. I am hoping she will not just be remembered for the sensationalism of that one scene because to me it gets mentioned to death over all the rest of what she did which in my view was even better than that scene. In some ways I think it is a very sexist commentary on her performance especially since what you actually see amounts to the same thing we saw with Sherlock when he was mostly defrocked of bedsheet in the palace.

**Posted by kazza474** July 2, 2012 2:15 am

While TRF is a big hit fanwise, the technical brilliance of series 2 would have to be Scandal. We are talking of slow mo action, the beauty of the scenes by the stream, the precise camera work and editing when dealing with deduction scenes . There aren't too many deduction scenes in TRF when you think back.
The actors in Scandal are working hard at projecting personalities and depth to their characters. By the time we get to TRF the character building is largely done, and it is simply storytelling.
I understood why Moftiss chose to nominate Scandal for the Baftas, and again for its sheer beauty rather than fan-pleasing action &suspense , I wholeheartedly agree that it is the quality item of their series 2 collection.

**Posted by Irene Adler** July 2, 2012 7:37 am

Sentimental Pulse wrote:
Irene Adler wrote:
Molly Hooper wrote:
Well Scandal did have the highest number of viewers, didn't it?
Yes, but I think the "battle dress" had a lot to do with this

I would also have submitted TRF, for me it is a better episode, but they did the same for the BAFTAs, didn't they? Anyway, if they submit TRF for actors work, Martin will have again a strong competence in Mr Scott (how awesome is he... )
Since I am an unabashed Lara fanatic you bring up a point that we here all realize but i am fearing the masses may not. Her acting in that episode was beyond superb. I am hoping she will not just be remembered for the sensationalism of that one scene because to me it gets mentioned to death over all the rest of what she did which in my view was even better than that scene. In some ways I think it is a very sexist commentary on her performance especially since what you actually see amounts to the same thing we saw with Sherlock when he was mostly defrocked of bedsheet in the palace.

Yes, I know what you mena. I am not Miss Pulver's biggest fan, but she did a pretty good job in Scandal. But I really think part of the success ASiB had was due to the "battle dress" (sadly, I must say, because it really is a great episode). Anyway, it is hard to choose between three true jewels

**Posted by SusiGo** July 2, 2012 7:54 am

I support the choice of ASiB because it is absolutely perfect: timing, dialogue, acting, visual effects, simply everything. And I think that its many comic elements ("And exactly how many times did he fall out of the window?") may have a stronger appeal for the jury (is there a jury, don't know how this works) than the darker tones of TRF we all appreciate so much. Just think of the Buckingham Palace scene which alone would deserve an award. There are so many wonderful things in this episode and we all wish for them to get an Emmy, don't we?

**Posted by hepzibah** July 19, 2012 2:20 pm

Hurray, both our boys have been nominated for Emmys, Ben for Lead Actor in a Miniseries, Martin for Supporting Actor in a Miniseries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are other nominations for Sherlock, but these, quite frankly, are the ones I care about!
Ben, on his birthday, couldn't be better.
I'm (mentally) running around my bedroom screaming at the top of my lungs

http://www.emmys.com/shows/sherlock-scandal-belgravia-masterpiece

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**Posted by SusiGo** July 19, 2012 2:42 pm

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So many nominations. Go, boys!

**Posted by Davina** July 19, 2012 3:04 pm

What a wonderful number of nominations! It goes to show what a wonderful team there is working on this production. Very pleased also for Paul McGuigan, David G. Arnold, Michael Price etc. The series would not be as fantastic as it is without the input, expertise, hard-work, talent and dedication of all those who work on it.

**Posted by Irene Adler** July 19, 2012 3:05 pm

hepzibah wrote:
Hurray, both our boys have been nominated for Emmys, Ben for Lead Actor in a Miniseries, Martin for Supporting Actor in a Miniseries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are other nominations for Sherlock, but these, quite frankly, are the ones I care about!

I know what you mean, but I just want to say I'm terribly happy Paul MacGuigan is nominated too. It was about time, don't you think?
And also Arnold and Price. That amazing music needs some awards too

And of course, I miss dear Andrew, but at least Martin got a nomination

**Posted by deerstalker** July 19, 2012 4:42 pm

I am so happy for them! Congratulations! Work of that caliber has to be celebrated))))
I love it that the nominations acknowledge things that make the show great: Acting, writing, directing, cinematography. You go, "Sherlock" team.

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**Posted by Arya** July 19, 2012 4:42 pm

http://www.emmys.com/nominations/2012/Outstanding%20Miniseries%20or%20Movie

Nominated for basically all miniseries catergories except hairstyling and makeup. Stopped counting the nominations at about 10 or so.

**Posted by sherlockskitty** July 19, 2012 5:20 pm

Ohh YAY!!! they got the three impotant noms for the emmys (Actor, Supporting Actor, and mini series) which air sept 23rd 2012--the wait will be almost as bad as waiting for sherlock series 3. And steven moffat had better win for the writing, Because I REALLY don't want to eat Sherlock's deerstalker hat. I will be watching the emmys this year--I hope Our boys are there, at the ceremony.

**Posted by Sammy** July 19, 2012 5:42 pm

WOO-HOOOO!

Yeah I think it's 10 nominations (?).
SOOO proud!
The Emmys! That's like the Oscars but for television!
Also especially proud for Benedict and Martin of course! And that on Benedict's birthday! Brilliant!

What do you think are our chances? I mean, of course, we all know how great our Sherlock is but I don't know the other shows and I don't know how it's handled at the Emmys.