Well, maybe they can try to make it work with living in 221B and Mrs. Husdon helping out when necessary at first and then realize that they are puttung themselves at too much risk out there, so they stop for a while.
However, I don't know whether they would be able to ever get back into the fray, even years later... Parenthood changes people and makes them more risk-averse. However, it's been established that John needs risk and action to function properly, this is how he ended up with Sherlock in the first place...
Such an ending would be definitely "the end of an era" but difficult to pull off character-wise and remain believable, I think. It also doesn't sound like insane wish fulfillment.

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ewige wrote:

Such an ending would be definitely "the end of an era" but difficult to pull off character-wise and remain believable, I think. It also doesn't sound like insane wish fulfillment.

No, the insane wish fulfillment is the part where John and Sherlock shag like bunnies. 

Sssssorry!
*runs away giggling madly*
 

Vhanja wrote:

tonnaree wrote:

Interesting thought that Rosie could be the reason for there having to be a break after S4.  Parentlock for real!  I don't think it's an impossible idea.  I could see John being torn up because he has to give up crime solving with Sherlock, but knowing he has to put Rosie first.  Then Sherlock being all "I made a vow" and saying they will take care of Rosie together.  It would certainly be something that's never been done with Sherlock before and I could be satisfied with the story going that way.

Oh, that would've been lovely! And ambigious enough to hopefully satisfy both Johnlockers and non-shippers. 

And thus the Sherlock fandom was reunited and lived happily ever after 

Vhanja wrote:

Lola Red wrote:

And thus the Sherlock fandom was reunited and lived happily ever after 

Hahaha, and pigs were flying. 

And pink elephants went on a parade !

Oh wait...🐘
 

It depends ... if they go off into the sunset that way, then it would be fine. If the cases and the excitement go altogether and we get a kind of sitcom, then no, I wouldn't be happy (but I don't think that would happen). 

I was actually happy not to see too much cute baby stuff with John and Mary - it wasn't something I particularly wanted to see.   I think the point was made well that although they loved Rosie, neither of them were really cut out to be stay at home parents, and were itching for adventure.  Meanwhile, Sherlock adjusted very well!  And yes, I don't like parentlock, and I didn't want to see Uncle Sherlock, but to my surprise I loved that bit!   Maybe "I love you" is to Rosie!

I do wonder about the (setlock spoiler)

little girls supposedly cast, and the older little girl seen at setlock.  At the time, I wondered if they were going to jump years ahead with baby Watson, although I think it was confirmed that the oldest little girl with the pigtails was not supposed to be her?  Or did I imagine that?

I expected Mary to die before the baby was born. As it did not happen can mean that Rosie has bigger role then just a burden. To kill Mary and after some time also Rosie seems to be too cruel and meaningless.

I like the idea of Sherlock's retirement and roses/Rosie. I do not want it to happen but it is exactly what happens - they take something from canon and use it in a different way.

So they will move to the country to raise Rosie till she can start boarding school. i.e they will disappear for ten years exactly as was the gap between books after Doyle let Sherlock die. And  it is clear now that we must wait for S5 till 2027.

 

I thought of retirement as one of the things that might seem "difficult to come back from" at the end of TFP.  At the time we were talking about character deaths and so on, and I thought it might be more something like a change.  And the pics that we've seen have suggested an end to 221B.   However, we saw John struggling a bit with fatherhood even when he had cases, so how would he feel about "retiring" from the adventure side?  I do wonder with Sherlock - if he could almost make a child a project, in the way Mycroft apparently did with him - and if that would retain his interest. 

There was a hint in one of the reviews that Culverton is like Jimmy Saville.  I don't know how far they're taking that, but Jimmy Saville was truly chilling.  I don't know if he is known outside the UK, but he was a famous public figure, famous for his charity work, was awarded a knighthood, etc. ... after his death it turned out he was a prolific paedophile, necrophile, etc.  Because of his status as much-loved philanthropist, he was allowed access to sick children in hospital, and to a mortuary.  I'm concerned about the fact that a mortuary is shown in the trailer (with Culverton there) and (setlock spoiler)

it looks like some scenes were filmed in a place fitted out to look like a  children's hospital

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However, some of the Smith mystery will apparently be related to Sherlock's past which is chilling enough even without little Rosie in the picture.

In the recent promo video Martin speaks of "emotionally uncomfortable territory" and calls CS "the worst person in London, worse than Moriarty, a horrible human being". So this is a different dimension of evil than before. 

I am not happy to have a child around, I agree on the "threesome" thing, I cannot see how it would work.
But, on the other hand, I would also find it rather strange, storywise, to kill first Mary and then her baby. Is John supposed to get over that and live happily ever after with Sherlock? Sorry for saying, but even if things like that might - sadly - happen in real life, and people might get over it, I think John would be more likely to finally be done with life. He had suicidal thoughts before, after all.