BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / Things we will never know but are curious about

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** August 7, 2012 11:08 pm

Ivy wrote:
Do you think that Mycroft and Sherlock ever had a good or normal relationship? When they were young for example.

By the way, I've just found these drawings. I really envy people who are able to draw.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=9&q=mycroft+sherlock&offset=48#/d4tmqp1

OMG they're so sweet!

**Posted by sherlockskitty** August 8, 2012 3:17 am

Oh those are so great!! I love the looks on their faces. Is that Meryl Streep as their mummy?

**Posted by Ivy** August 8, 2012 7:07 am

sherlockskitty wrote:
Oh those are so great!! I love the looks on their faces. Is that Meryl Streep as their mummy?

The person who drew this said in the "comments" that she had a photo of Meryl Streep as model.

These christmas jumpers are lovely, my first thought was what Mycroft said to John "He's always been so resentful. You can imagine the Christmas dinners."

**Posted by SusiGo** August 8, 2012 8:15 am

I love the Christmas jumpers, they're just as ugly as John's in SiB.

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** August 8, 2012 1:01 pm

I can totally imagine the Holmes family Christmas being like that too.

**Posted by sherlockskitty** August 11, 2012 6:02 am

so-- what WERE the christmas dinners really like, then? Both brothers one-upping each other? "my horse is bigger than your horse" etc?

**Posted by Sherlockita** August 12, 2012 7:58 am

In "The Great Game" when sherlock gets the envelope containing the pink mobile phone (sent to him by Moriarty) he talks about female handwriting. He says something like, "she has used this ink"..Who was "She" here? Which woman helped Moriarty to write on that envelope? Or was Sherlock wrong, and it was Moriarty's handwriting only?

**Posted by Irene Adler** August 12, 2012 8:01 am

monitaa wrote:
In "The Great Game" when sherlock gets the envelope containing the pink mobile phone (sent to him by Moriarty) he talks about female handwriting. He says something like, "she has used this ink"..Who was "She" here? Which woman helped Moriarty to write on that envelope? Or was Sherlock wrong, and it was Moriarty's handwriting only?

This is something that the writers don't make very clear, I think. I assumed it was Mrs Wenceslas, the owner of the art gallery, because Sherlock says something like "Bohemian stationary, an assassin from Prague and YOU, Mrs Wenceslas" and that all the case was very czech-related. But there's no confirmation of this, I believe.

Let's see if anyone else can enlighten us a bit

**Posted by kazza474** August 12, 2012 8:46 am

I believe the 'woman' who wrote on the envelope would have been the woman who was the first 'live bomb' ; the one sitting in the car. That would have been Moriarty all over after all she was delivering the first messages. And this meant he wasn't dirtying his hands.

Mrs Wenceslas isn't involved in the Carl Powers case at all so no reason for it to be her at all; she's only involved in the painting case.

**Posted by ImaSherlockGirl** August 12, 2012 6:46 pm

It's probably a bit far-fetched, but for some reason I always thought Irene Adler was the person who wrote on the envelope.

**Posted by sherlockskitty** August 12, 2012 10:24 pm

About the handwriting on the envelope--I think it's more of a deduction, not a "who wrote this on there" guess. Handwriting analysts are trained to spot the differences between male and female writing. I think that is what Sherlock did. He did the same thing in the canon story Scandal in Bohemia.

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** August 15, 2012 5:22 pm

The first victim sounds about right. And he got her to do it in Bohemian stationary ect just to throw Sherlock off thebscent slightly, because obviously the envelope and handwriting was completely irrelevant to the case in the end.

**Posted by kazza474** August 16, 2012 3:11 am

ImaSherlockGirl wrote:
It's probably a bit far-fetched, but for some reason I always thought Irene Adler was the person who wrote on the envelope.

Sherlock had never heard of her then AND more importantly, she only contacted Moriarty just AFTER the end of The Great Game.(Start of Scandal). Nothing really to suggest they had any links before that.

**Posted by Sherlockita** August 16, 2012 4:40 am

Thanks everyone for replying to my query.
Yeah, I too now think that it was the first female victim who wrote on that envelope or it could be any other girl who Moriarty coaxed to.... I don't think Moriarty would engage Irene Adler for such an unimportant task...He can make anyone a hostage anytime he wants .. why would he need Irene's services for that..
That museum gallery woman also (I suppose, honestly) confessed to the police that she had never personally met Moriarty and that she was connected only with the painting crime and had got nothing to do with all other things that Moriarty was upto in that episode...

@All
I have another query. Last night I learnt that Benedict's ex-girlfriend featured in the 'Blind Banker' episode of first series, as the secretary of Van Coon. Was wondering who did that "hair pin" eventually go to? Why was she jumping with joy.. Would she retain that hair pin? Won't it eventually belong to the Chinese government as it was a smuggled item?

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** August 19, 2012 8:47 pm

I've got one too:

After Sherlock gets drugged by Irene and then taken home, John tells him that Lestrade filmed him on his phone. Ever wonder what he did/was doing on the video? Suggestions...

**Posted by Davina** August 19, 2012 9:21 pm

I've always imagined there to be a lot of walking into walls, muttering ' The Woman' and general drunk-like behaviour.

**Posted by AreYouTryingToDeduceMe** August 23, 2012 11:42 am

I like to think that in that video Sherlock couldn't stop talking about "BEES. JAWN, LOOK AT THE PRETTY BEES." hahaha

**Posted by Davina** August 24, 2012 11:30 am

Who does Sherlock's and John's washing and ironing? For that matter who did Jim Moriarty's? Eek! You wouldn't want to be accidentally making his white shirts go mushy grey or pink would you! He might have you shot...or made into shoes.

**Posted by kazza474** August 24, 2012 12:41 pm

Davina wrote:
Who does Sherlock's and John's washing and ironing? For that matter who did Jim Moriarty's?..........................

BORING!!!!!!!!

**Posted by Harriet** August 24, 2012 5:53 pm

Uh oh, I had thought of a similar question - what a coincidence.

How does Sherlock get his clothes?
Imho he's way too elegant for someone who doesn't care.

Thinking of Irene, will he just text his own measures to a store for a package of 12 of each?
Or maybe there is a tailor who still owes him a favor?