BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / Mary's Death

**Posted by mrshouse** January 11, 2015 6:27 pm

It has been stated a couple of times that it is a bad source. Tbh I don't even know how it works....

**Posted by Vhanja** January 11, 2015 6:29 pm

Not because of IMDB, but because she said it herself in an interview that's on YouTube.

**Posted by Ozma** January 11, 2015 6:38 pm

I have spoken to the founder of Imdb himself at a party (he is from England and he is the most down to earth and nicest nerd in the face of the Earth) and he told me users fill in information and technically anyone can add whatever they want

**Posted by Schmiezi** January 11, 2015 8:03 pm

That's good to know, Ozma. Thank you.

**Posted by Ozma** January 11, 2015 8:09 pm

No problem I even went all the way and shamed myself - told him I wanted to know because I checked the Sherlock page and I wanted to know if the release date had been imputted by someone from the production

**Posted by ancientsgate** January 11, 2015 8:59 pm

Ozma wrote:
Amanda Abbington literally said 'we all know what happens to Mary Morstan so that's kind of inevitable' and also added that she knows how it happens. I mean.... really? Are we still doubting? That sounds pretty crystal clear to me!?

I never said I didn't think they'd kill her off. I just believe they'll kill her off in their own good time, and I won't be holding my breath, waiting for it to happen in the first 5 minutes of episode 4.1. But I also believe that whatever the showrunners decide to do about Mary, it'll be carefully crafted to a) torture John Watson and run him through the emotional (and maybe also physical) wringer as much as possible, and b) do the same to all of Sherlock's loyal fans.

**Posted by ancientsgate** January 11, 2015 9:00 pm

Ozma wrote:
I have spoken to the founder of Imdb himself at a party (he is from England and he is the most down to earth and nicest nerd in the face of the Earth) and he told me users fill in information and technically anyone can add whatever they want

So in that way, it's like Wikipedia, sounds like.

**Posted by Ozma** January 12, 2015 1:05 pm

ancientsgate wrote:
Ozma wrote:
Amanda Abbington literally said 'we all know what happens to Mary Morstan so that's kind of inevitable' and also added that she knows how it happens. I mean.... really? Are we still doubting? That sounds pretty crystal clear to me!?
I never said I didn't think they'd kill her off. I just believe they'll kill her off in their own good time, and I won't be holding my breath, waiting for it to happen in the first 5 minutes of episode 4.1. But I also believe that whatever the showrunners decide to do about Mary, it'll be carefully crafted to a) torture John Watson and run him through the emotional (and maybe also physical) wringer as much as possible, and b) do the same to all of Sherlock's loyal fans.

ah yes, they'll do it in their own time, I don't think anybody thinks that it will be as swift as the first 10 mins of the episode. But going by what she said she will die in s4 (because the actors have been pitched for the episodes that have been commissioned).

**Posted by tonnaree** January 12, 2015 2:37 pm

I honestly don't think Mary will survive past S4.

**Posted by Vhanja** January 12, 2015 2:42 pm

I still have high hopes that she won't survive the Special.

**Posted by Ozma** January 12, 2015 3:06 pm

Don't know about the special, but S4, definitely. Mary's done.

**Posted by Vhanja** January 12, 2015 3:47 pm

But again - it's not IMDB that is the biggest clue for her death, it's Amanda's own words.

**Posted by Ozma** January 12, 2015 4:01 pm

I have noticed that sometimes people fill in info even when it comes from ludicrous sources like Christian Today or whatever website it is that keeps claiming to have info on Sherlock.

I agree that the confirmation of Mary's death came from Amanda.

**Posted by nakahara** January 12, 2015 4:11 pm

But Amanda thought also, that her character would die in S3 - and look what happened.
I think only the authors of the show know about Mary´s fate - and they can still change their mind and write it differently.

**Posted by Ozma** January 12, 2015 4:15 pm

When did Amanda think her character would die in s3?

Anyway, we are talking about 2 different situations I think. One thing is that Amanda said she might die in 23 when she hadn't been pitched about it, another is her knowing what happens because she has been told the storyline for the series. If they pitched it already I would find it extremely improbable that they would change such a huge event after it's already been planned out. Just my 2 cents.

**Posted by tonnaree** January 12, 2015 4:33 pm

For the most part nothing is CONFIRMED until we see it on screen.
And then we'll still debate about it!'s meaning.

**Posted by Schmiezi** January 12, 2015 4:39 pm

tonnaree wrote:
For the most part nothing is CONFIRMED until we see it on screen.
And then we'll still debate about it!'s meaning.

And even if we see her die, we will still discuss if she is really really dead.

**Posted by ancientsgate** January 12, 2015 8:04 pm

nakahara wrote:
But Amanda thought also, that her character would die in S3 - and look what happened.
I think only the authors of the show know about Mary´s fate - and they can still change their mind and write it differently.

And the whole lot of them can say whatever they like before the fact. I wouldn't go so far as accusing anyone of outright lies, but they certainly can play fast and loose with their plans and also get so coy as to really mislead people. You know, trying to be clever.

**Posted by ancientsgate** January 12, 2015 8:05 pm

Schmiezi wrote:
And even if we see her die, we will still discuss if she is really really dead.

Good point.

**Posted by HannahCumberbatch** April 30, 2015 5:28 pm

Probably quite unlikely, but what if Mary was to die during childbirth - as if i have understood correctly happens in ACD's stories???? excuse me if I'm wrong but anyway... Sherlock and John could raise the kid together... that would be super sweet AWHHH