They were trolling like crazy. With everything

that's the thing. What they did at the end leaves everything open for them to explore...

Yeah. But still, if Moriarty's really survived, I hope we'll get a real explanation as to how he faked his death, just not like Sherlock's fall which I am still sceptical about...  

Sherlock may be even more twisted than I thought and he helped Moriarty to survive just for the sake to have an enemy who can measure up to him. What would his life be without a good villain? BORING. And he hates being bored. Moriarty and him are very much alike when it comes to this.

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They have a lot of options...could be his twin brother, could be just a recording from someone else, could be Sherlock himself, having conjured it up to save his own arse (though don't think so!!!! ) Could be that Moriarty just faked it.

Oh God. The wait is just too painful.

silverblaze wrote:

I hope it's Moriarty's brother and not the guy on the roof. Faking suicide at each other is still kinda ridiculous. 

My feelings also.    They have my attention but I think, even for this show, that it is too far fetched for Moriartry to really still be alive.

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I think Moffat and Gatiss are having the last laugh here (as always) because they've been telling us all along that Moriarty was dead and to a certain extent they were trolling us a little. The reason I'm saying "to a certain extent" is because I still believe that Jim Moriarty, the one who broke into the Crown Jewels and played that game with Sherlock, blew his head off on top of St Bart's hospital. The man we see on the videos is most likely his brother.

This isn't a far fetched scenario. In the canon, Moriarty had two brothers, one of whom was evil and attempted to discredit Holmes' reputation in revenge for his brother's death.

I think it'd be a really cool idea if he was a twin brother though, as it might go some way to explaining the Richard Brook theory. And also the fact that Andrew Scott could still play him.

It always seemed a little strange to me that Andrew Scott kept attending all these Sherlock related events, Q & A's etc if he's no longer to be part of the cast...

haha, I know.

At the screening on Wednesday he wasn't there at the beginning, he snuck in after the screening had started, and then Moffat told us he was there during the Q&A.

I went to speak to him and tell him he's amazing and I'm so glad to see he's possibly back, and took a picture with him and he made me promise not to show it to anyone until Sunday.

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

 In the canon, Moriarty had two brothers, one of whom was evil and attempted to discredit Holmes' reputation in revenge for his brother's death..

I agree. It's a brother or his father. His father also featured in the canon iirc. Also, that video is a poor animation of his lower jaw. It could be someone else entirely using old images.

I don't believe that Jim Moriarty of season 2 is alive; it's someone else using the threat of his visage. Be interesting to see what they do with it.

Someone in Tumblr posted a theory saying that maybe Mary met John because  she was assigned/hired to kill him but fell in love with him instead. Following this theory I theorized that she could be the "Moran" of this verse and if she was I'm sure she would know the right people to "bring back" Moriarty and keep Sherlock in England.

Here's how I see it.

A) Moriarty is in fact dead. Then I would assume that they either carefully examined the body or (if Moriarty's people took it) would not rest until they'd made absolutely, 100 percent sure that they'd finished him for good.
In this scenario we can assume some impostor/his twin brother/new villain is using footage of Moriarty. I'm really struggling to understand why someone else would go to those lengths though. To what end? Revenge? Simply using Moriarty's reputation for yet unknown purposes? Hmm... The drama-queen-esque video message broadcast on every screen in the country does however hint at someone of Moriarty's caliber.

B) Scenario 2: Moriarty is still alive. If that is true then shame on the Holmes brothers for doing a sloppy job.
It would just seem too out of character for them to simply ASSUME he's dead if, for example, his body had mysteriously dissappeared from that roof. I just don't believe that after all their effort they'd let him slip away and got on with their lives.

Their reactions are quite interesting (I'm basing this on memories as I have yet to rewatch it). Their surprise shows me that they know he is dead. If they thought Moriarty were still out there they'd expect him to show up sooner or later.
Also they would probably keep tabs on him. Sherlock & Mycroft are simply too smart to be messed with like that.

Thoughts?