Donovan, did she ever date Sherlock?

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Posted by besleybean
February 20, 2013 5:20 pm
#41

Sally is obnoxious.
She doesn't deserve Sherlock...she and Anderson are made for each other!


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Posted by Mary Me
February 20, 2013 5:23 pm
#42

besleybean wrote:

Sally is obnoxious.
She doesn't deserve Sherlock...she and Anderson are made for each other!

Very much so. She should stop hating on Sherlock and continue scrubbing Anderson's floor.


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Posted by vaticancameos
June 24, 2013 7:40 pm
#43

I don't think they ever dated. Though I do find it curious that he often calls her by her first name, whereas he calls Anderson by his last and doesn't even know Lestrade's first name for years.


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Posted by besleybean
June 24, 2013 7:44 pm
#44

Possibly a bit of a public schoolie thing.


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Posted by sj4iy
June 24, 2013 8:19 pm
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Posted by Lupin
June 25, 2013 1:56 am
#46

If the canon is any indication, then no. Sherlock detests women as creatures capable of more chicanery than any man. Yet, to be fair, they did take an interesting interpretation of his relationship with Irene Adler. Those who've read the canon know there was absolutely zero chemistry between them.

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Posted by besleybean
June 25, 2013 5:47 am
#47

Not according to Benedict!

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Posted by Be
June 25, 2013 10:37 am
#48

I'd like to look at Sally from a different perspective. She has a role in the series to be a devil's advocate. She is an item of contrived content. Fans hate her because she is critical and she can see the dark side of Sherlock's personality.
Don't step into this trap the writer's put out for you when you see her in the light of your triggered emotions to "defend" poor Sherlock. He is in no need to be defended.

A lawyer or investigator has to be very aware of the opinion of an Advocatus Diaboli. The detective has to walk in the shoes of the enemy and construct in his/her mind palace the weak points or possible mistakes. The use of a devil's advocate is a strategy to prevent biased information seeking.  We are given this  safeguard-character because she can fore-shadow events and plant the doubt and she makes people think. And maybe she even has a point.

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Posted by Mattlocked
June 25, 2013 11:04 am
#49

I agree with you, be.
I think she only speaks out what most people think: Freak.
And from her point of view I can even understand her.


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Posted by sj4iy
June 25, 2013 2:55 pm
#50

She's just jealous that an "amateur" is better at her job than she is.  So is Anderson.  If you saw Sherlock coming in and swooping up your job, you'd be jealous, too.  That's promotions and money out of your pocket.  But how will this dynamic change once they realized that they pushed a man to his death?  Will they think that he had it coming, or will they see Sherlock for what he truly is?  Will they believe the truth behind it, or the lie Moriarty created?  Personally, I think that they are the ones with the most potential for character growth, and I look forward to it.


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Posted by besleybean
June 25, 2013 4:56 pm
#51

And maybe some twists?


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Posted by Davina
June 25, 2013 6:11 pm
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She is also a great counterbalance to Molly's character.


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Posted by besleybean
June 25, 2013 6:26 pm
#53

Can't stand her, but is a match for Anderson I suppose,


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Posted by Michele
June 28, 2013 2:31 am
#54

Perhaps she could have had a crush on him but I would say that Sherlock wouldn't have been interested, being married to his job and all. That could explain why she's against him, or just simply because she is jealous of his cleverless (or cheekbones).
But I'm definately in the 'they didn't date' camp.


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Posted by besleybean
June 28, 2013 6:11 am
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Me too.


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Posted by butterfly grl
June 28, 2013 2:39 pm
#56

Sherlock doesn't help her attitude by always snarking at her and Anderson. I believe he enjoys rattling their cages.


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Posted by besleybean
June 28, 2013 3:09 pm
#57

Yes but they are so awful to him.


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Posted by Mnemosyne
June 29, 2013 1:34 pm
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Iwantthatcoat wrote:

I think it likely Sherlock manipulated Sally, like acting interested to get an opportunity to get something relevant to a case, before the Yard let him have full access. That " old friend" bit sticks with me. If he used her like he has Molly. He would have been even more desperate at the beginning of his career. I also agree he probably switched the relationship off by disclosing things very private (hence the projection of "freak")

I don't think they dated but this is a very interresting idea; that Sherlock, at some point, manipulated Sally to get what he wanted. Not really thinking about her feelings over the situation and seeing anything else as a necessary evil. He probably wasn't being vindictive but, like his manipulation of Molly, he saw his behaviour as a means to an end.

But in my own interpretation I see Sally as just being incredibly threatened by Sherlock. He's an outsider in every respect of the word. He has just swanned in on her job (and the jobs of everyone around him) without the training and dedication which has likely taken her years to attain... and essentially made them all look like idiots. Repeatedly.

<understatement>If someone did that to you in your job you would probably bear a bit of a grudge.</understatement>

And for Sherlock to also act so bluntly, without any degree of empathy; to walk around her workplace with his ego hanging out saying 'I'm great because you're all so stupid.' And to display at every available opportunity his superiority which comes so utterly naturally to him (because he's a self confessed show-off.) To see things her way for just a moment: Is it any wonder she (and Anderson) hate him so much?
 


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Posted by nicbooful
June 29, 2013 1:47 pm
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Mnemosyne wrote:

Iwantthatcoat wrote:

I think it likely Sherlock manipulated Sally, like acting interested to get an opportunity to get something relevant to a case, before the Yard let him have full access. That " old friend" bit sticks with me. If he used her like he has Molly. He would have been even more desperate at the beginning of his career. I also agree he probably switched the relationship off by disclosing things very private (hence the projection of "freak")

I don't think they dated but this is a very interresting idea; that Sherlock, at some point, manipulated Sally to get what he wanted. Not really thinking about her feelings over the situation and seeing anything else as a necessary evil. He probably wasn't being vindictive but, like his manipulation of Molly, he saw his behaviour as a means to an end.

But in my own interpretation I see Sally as just being incredibly threatened by Sherlock. He's an outsider in every respect of the word. He has just swanned in on her job (and the jobs of everyone around him) without the training and dedication which has likely taken her years to attain... and essentially made them all look like idiots. Repeatedly.

<understatement>If someone did that to you in your job you would probably bear a bit of a grudge.</understatement>

And for Sherlock to also act so bluntly, without any degree of empathy; to walk around her workplace with his ego hanging out saying 'I'm great because you're all so stupid.' And to display at every available opportunity his superiority which comes so utterly naturally to him (because he's a self confessed show-off.) To see things her way for just a moment: Is it any wonder she (and Anderson) hate him so much?
 

This sounds like a very plausible idea which I agree with.

To add my thoughts to this, it must be strange having someone at a crime scene who seems to enjoy it the way Sherlock does. If an officer acted like that at a crime scene they would be hauled before a review board and their conduct investigated. It's easier to imagine Sherlock is responsible for a crime than believe the alternative which is him being a genius.

 


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Posted by besleybean
June 29, 2013 7:19 pm
#60

As far as we know, Donovan has no evidence to consider Sherlock a risk.
It is sheer bigotry.


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