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**Posted by ukaunz** July 29, 2016 12:09 pm

Yes, it's a common trope and not inherently romantic...

But anyway, Doyle did bring their adventures to an end. Holmes retires to Sussex and keeps bees. Without Watson.

Edit: of course it could be seen as romantic as in "idealised" or "picturesque", but I meant that it wasn't necessarily to do with amorous love.

Last edited by ukaunz (July 29, 2016 12:18 pm)

**Posted by nakahara** July 29, 2016 12:32 pm

Uh... and Mary Morstan dies before Sherlock Holmes comes back from his "Reichenbach leave" in the Canon...

Also, some old lady and not Sherlock shoots Milverton...

Etc., etc.

**Posted by ukaunz** July 29, 2016 12:40 pm

I was just responding to the bit where Gatiss says "Doyle doesn’t bring them to an end, and every great version ends with them walking off into the sunset for other adventures." I personally hope this version doesn't end with Sherlock retiring alone, either.

**Posted by nakahara** July 29, 2016 12:45 pm

Well, chronologically "His last bow" is their last adventure - it takes place after Sherlock´s "retirement". Sherlock discloses that he was active for two years in America, infiltrating some illegal organisation to earn trust of German spy in the UK. He then subdues the spy with the help of Watson and some elder lady, "Martha". And they ride into the sunset, musing about an "eastern wind"...

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**Posted by ukaunz** July 29, 2016 12:53 pm

Oh, I was thinking of the other retirement stories, such as the Lion's Mane. I'm not familiar with the correct chronology, so that's good to know

**Posted by besleybean** July 29, 2016 1:58 pm

I love The Lion's Mane.

**Posted by Liberty** July 29, 2016 5:29 pm

I think some of the stuff is getting quite mean. If you watch the video and read the Guardian article, there are differences between them - why don't people just look at those and try to work out what he means? The gist of it is the same (that he loves the film, that it has that melancholy element, etc.), but he's saying that the Guardian report isn't accurate and it seems that tumblr thinks he must be lying or mistaken. We all know that the media tends to misreport - maybe not always in a big way. But I can see somebody has done a summary of what he said, then a little bit that's supposedly "verbatim" - the verbatim piece seems superficially accurate (that scene does exist in the film, and I personally feel it does imply that Sherlock is gay), but maybe Mark's objection is to the focus being on that. Or perhaps there are some actual errors - something else was "desparately unspoken", for instance.

**Posted by Ivy** July 29, 2016 5:34 pm

LOL I'd totally buy their album.

**Posted by Lilythiell** July 29, 2016 5:45 pm

Lol so would I :D

**Posted by Russell** July 29, 2016 8:35 pm

Oh my gosh, I love that! Erf, but man... some of the ways things get tweaked in interviews (or unfortunately by the person, considering everything those guys try to hide or teasingly side-step)...

**Posted by Vhanja** July 29, 2016 9:01 pm

Lol, what an awesome pic! :D

**Posted by SolarSystem** July 29, 2016 9:08 pm

Since their album is called "Sauerkraut" I'm hoping for an extensive tour throughout Germany.

**Posted by SolarSystem** July 29, 2016 9:21 pm

...and this is why I love the Sherlock fandom:
http://redscharlach.tumblr.com/post/148163020741/with-apologies-to-mark-gatiss-heres-that

**Posted by Vhanja** July 29, 2016 9:32 pm

LOL, that's awesome!

**Posted by besleybean** July 30, 2016 7:04 pm

Love the album cover!

**Posted by Ivy** July 30, 2016 9:31 pm

SolarSystem wrote:
...and this is why I love the Sherlock fandom:
http://redscharlach.tumblr.com/post/148163020741/with-apologies-to-mark-gatiss-heres-that

haha, great. I hope someone sends him that

**Posted by Vhanja** July 31, 2016 8:37 am

And someone took it even further.

https://asherlockstudy.tumblr.com/post/148211570475/jamlocked-girlofthemirror-freakinfreeman

**Posted by SolarSystem** July 31, 2016 9:45 am

This is getting out of hand.

**Posted by besleybean** July 31, 2016 9:49 am

Even better!

**Posted by Ivy** August 1, 2016 4:11 pm

Vhanja wrote:
And someone took it even further.

https://asherlockstudy.tumblr.com/post/148211570475/jamlocked-girlofthemirror-freakinfreeman

Sue has seen it