BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / The phone call

**Posted by Davina** July 7, 2012 6:36 am

So...who made the phone call to tell John that Mrs.Hudson had been shot?

Just asking like...

**Posted by SusiGo** July 7, 2012 7:08 am

It could have been Molly, provided John wouldn't recognise her voice. Someone from the Homeless network. Mycroft, if he's in on the whole story. One of Mycroft's assistants. We don't learn what the caller said, not even if it was anonymous or someone pretending to be police or a neighbour.

**Posted by kazza474** July 7, 2012 11:56 am

Someone who had been arranged to do so by Sherlock. He had time to do that while John slept.

**Posted by veecee** July 7, 2012 6:39 pm

With Sherlock's network of helpers and his technological expertise, he could probably arrange something pretty easily. Mycroft, too, if he's in on it. Somehow I don't think so, though.

Hey, I just realized, Moriarty did not include Mycroft among the people targeted by the snipers. Interesting. I suppose this has already come up elsewhere in the TRF forum. I haven't been able to get deep into all the episode forums (fora? ) yet.

Last edited by veecee (July 7, 2012 6:40 pm)

**Posted by Wholocked** July 8, 2012 6:54 am

veecee wrote:
Hey, I just realized, Moriarty did not include Mycroft among the people targeted by the snipers. Interesting.

Yes, but watch it again. Moriarty is not the one who names the people targetted. Sherlock does. I rather suspect, as do others, that he chose deliberately who to name. He didn't name Mycroft nor Molly...yet he named Lestrade.

**Posted by kazza474** July 8, 2012 7:40 am

Wholocked wrote:
veecee wrote:
Hey, I just realized, Moriarty did not include Mycroft among the people targeted by the snipers. Interesting.
Yes, but watch it again. Moriarty is not the one who names the people targetted. Sherlock does. I rather suspect, as do others, that he chose deliberately who to name. He didn't name Mycroft nor Molly...yet he named Lestrade.

Well said. I have always harboured a belief that there is something in the fact that Sherlock chose to name the people supposedly being targeted, not Moriarty.
Moriarty is a natural liar, he can lie about anything. One thing with people who lie, they will change tack at the drop of a pin. Sherlock names people & Moriarty ( in my mind) bluffs his way through, saying " yep, them... and them .. and them too".
Now yes, we do see John in one sniper's sights, but the other 2 don't have guns on them really. Those shots could be suggestions rather than facts.
Were Sherlock's widely varied suggestions of people just a test to see how much Moriarty was willing to go with bluffs?

As far as Mycroft goes, that'd be a pretty dangerous move taking out a high ranking Government person really.
Lots of food for thought with this area of thinking methinks.

**Posted by Sherlock Holmes** July 8, 2012 5:16 pm

In the original Final Problem it wasn't Holmes that arranged the telegram of the fake dying woman to get Watson away, it was Moriarty's doing. So maybe it was Jim who arranged the phone call, knowing that Sherlock wouldn't meet him if John was still hanging around.

**Posted by butterfly grl** June 18, 2013 10:25 pm

I think jm had the call made by one of
his men. That gave Sherlock A countdown clock to get to the roof, deal with JM, and either win, or have john in place for the jump.