BBC Sherlock Fan Forum - Serving Sherlockians since February 2012 / My thoughts about Mary (all episodes)

**Posted by SusiGo** July 10, 2015 2:22 pm

May I point out that this thread is for discussing my thoughts stated at the beginning and the other Mary thread for all other discussions about her character?

**Posted by nakahara** July 10, 2015 3:12 pm

Swanpride wrote:
In this case, the result shows the intention. If she had intended to kill Sherlock he would be dead. And to me, intention matters. As long as I can believe that she truly loves John (which I do), I can forgive a lot.

Just curious: would you tolerate the reverse - Sherlock hurting Mary grievously - because he loves John sincerely and think Mary and John´s child stand in the way of his love?

If Sherlock killed/disposed of John´s child and Mary for this reason, would you still consider him symphatetic?

**Posted by Harriet** July 10, 2015 3:16 pm

Please read Susi's 2191

**Posted by nakahara** July 10, 2015 3:20 pm

Harriet wrote:
Please read Susi's 2191

I´ve read it but the post I´m reacting to is still in this thread and since I´m not an administrator, I have no idea (nor have the power) to remove the post No. 2190 into another thread.

**Posted by Harriet** July 10, 2015 3:20 pm

You can quote it and copy the text in the box over there.

**Posted by nakahara** July 10, 2015 3:22 pm

Everytime I try to copy the post of another member that way, the post somehow goes crazy / disappears, so there´s no helping it, sorry.

**Posted by RavenMorganLeigh** July 11, 2015 5:37 am

I have a question: one of the things Sherlock deduced about Mary was "Short-sighted". I think we've talked about possible issues with her vision, but suppose it actually means "short-sightedness"? Meaning she sees short-term solutions, not the long game. That could explain a lot of her actions--she reacts, and acts without really consdering the consequences.

**Posted by kornmuhme** July 11, 2015 6:24 pm

RavenMorganLeigh wrote:
I have a question: one of the things Sherlock deduced about Mary was "Short-sighted". I think we've talked about possible issues with her vision, but suppose it actually means "short-sightedness"? Meaning she sees short-term solutions, not the long game. That could explain a lot of her actions--she reacts, and acts without really consdering the consequences.

So you think of a double meaning of the word? Interesting ...

**Posted by Harriet** July 11, 2015 6:26 pm

Harriet wrote:
Please read Susi's 2191

**Posted by RavenMorganLeigh** July 11, 2015 7:07 pm

Harriet wrote:
Harriet wrote:
Please read Susi's 2191

Harriet-- I realize that you now moderate this thread, but I thought I was compliant with SusiGo's original post. Did you read it through? How narrowly are you interpreting things? Just curious-- because my last question had to do with the cloud of deductions Sherlock made about Mary in TEH. How was that non -compliant with your standard of what is allowable, here? Again, just curious-- and a little puzzled.

**Posted by Harriet** July 11, 2015 9:53 pm

I sent you a PM

**Posted by SusiGo** July 12, 2015 10:14 am

As the existence of three Mary threads has caused some confusion, I am going to close this one. 2,200 posts are an amazing numbers which shows the great need for discussing the character. In order to avoid further misunderstandings, I would suggest this:

Why we love Mary: I think this is self-explaining
Mary - the subject of discussion: open, controversial but polite discussion of Mary as a character

As for respecting other's opinions: This means that no one should post negative views in the former thread but also that no one should be prevented from discussing negative views in the latter.

Thank you for all the interesting discussions in here.