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May 30, 2016 8:09 am  #1721


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Walking determinedly into an ambulance while biting his lips in pain?


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May 30, 2016 8:14 am  #1722


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Completely different body language. There has been some discussion if these scene could take place in his mind to explain the bizarre jumble of facts. Remember how we wondered about the living-room in the middle of the street during TAB setlock?
 


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May 30, 2016 8:18 am  #1723


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Mind palace is a good bet, it all seems interesting and bizarre in a way


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May 30, 2016 8:55 am  #1724


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

It would also explain, Mrs Hudson and everybody else being there - maybe they are all playing a part in his mind palace.  

 

May 30, 2016 9:06 am  #1725


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Indeed. And while we never get Molly in her lab coat outside St Barts, we see her dressed like that in Cam's office = in Sherlock's MP. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 30, 2016 9:53 am  #1726


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

MP is always a possibility I think, especially with so many bizarre elements in this scene.

But on the other hand - would Sherlock see himself entering an ambulance in MP? Most things he sees in MP are symbolic. While an ambulance is a bit too concrete, too material a thing meant to help when a body, not mind, is in peril. What place would it have in MP, I wonder? So its presence could indicate that the sene is real, IMHO.


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May 30, 2016 10:04 am  #1727


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Well, if you take the MP in HLV, it is pretty specific. The morgue, Mycroft's office, the hallway in Roland Kerr College, all place he has been to and he knows well. He has been in similar ambulance in HLV twice. So why not integrate it into his MP? Could be symbolic of being attacked, feeling weak, working out who tries to damage him, etc. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 30, 2016 2:02 pm  #1728


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

SusiGo wrote:

Well, if you take the MP in HLV, it is pretty specific. The morgue, Mycroft's office, the hallway in Roland Kerr College, all place he has been to and he knows well. He has been in similar ambulance in HLV twice. So why not integrate it into his MP? Could be symbolic of being attacked, feeling weak, working out who tries to damage him, etc. 

He could be inside the ambulance when entering the mind palace. In the end he could enter the ambulance again in his mind to get out of the mind palace.


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May 30, 2016 2:03 pm  #1729


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

That would be good...all the rest is transport.


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May 30, 2016 2:17 pm  #1730


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

I like that theory! 
 


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May 30, 2016 5:18 pm  #1731


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

or is there someone in the ambulance?


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May 30, 2016 5:20 pm  #1732


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That's the best question.


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May 30, 2016 5:26 pm  #1733


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

And the follow-up question; if so, who is it?

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May 30, 2016 5:32 pm  #1734


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Well, following the Basic idea of The Dying Detective, it could also be that Sherlock uses the ambulance to go somewhere else to fake his illness.

Unlike in canon, here John would know abut it. But that still does not explain Molly in her coat.


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May 30, 2016 5:35 pm  #1735


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Maybe she poses as a doctor to make it more urgent. They might be observed after all. Still, it would be far more dramatic to carry him into the ambulance. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

May 30, 2016 5:41 pm  #1736


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

SusiGo wrote:

Maybe she poses as a doctor to make it more urgent. 

That's a good idea!


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May 30, 2016 5:42 pm  #1737


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

It is and I think it's hilarious the rest of us were all focused on it being a LAB coat.
But a doctor's coat, d'oh!


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May 30, 2016 5:44 pm  #1738


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May 30, 2016 5:57 pm  #1739


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

besleybean wrote:

It is and I think it's hilarious the rest of us were all focused on it being a LAB coat.
But a doctor's coat, d'oh!

Except that doctors don't tend to wear white coats for patient contact these days!  A paramedic disguise might work better with the ambulance. 

Not a clue about G71 - looks like a room number. 

 

May 30, 2016 5:58 pm  #1740


Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)

Garage No 71 maybe?


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