Yes, I mentioned Sherlock as the bloodhound earlier, Nakahara, but I hadn't spotted the canon mention - thanks!  And it's a great quote, too! 

By "the" trailer, I meant the inevitable trailer that willl come out ... I was thinking that the TAB one was potentially more spoilerific than the actual setlock, or a screening of a segment would have been.  Thanks for the info on possible release dates!

Susi, I wondered if "adventure, romance and terror" were the three words i.e not just the flavour of series 4 but a theme of each episode.   It just seems quite neat that there are three words there, if we're waiting for three words! 

I'm still curious about "shark" possibly tying into the shark tweets.  So I've found them! 
https://twitter.com/markgatiss/status/723584656134823937
https://twitter.com/markgatiss/status/723585279211266052
https://twitter.com/markgatiss/status/723587711769174016
Will Sherlock be up against this particularly sharky big bad in Ep3?

 

Last edited by Liberty (July 8, 2016 6:03 pm)

Or to make it easier,

1) Sharks are rude. 2) Sharks drive on the right. 3) Sharks wee sitting down. 4) Sharks like going to the shops. 5) Sharks play dirty 6) Sharks like to dress as different kinds of shark 7) Sharks speak very quietly 8) Sharks can’t spell. 9) Sharks are made of wood. 10) There’s no such thing as Sharks.

Number 10 is really intriguing! 

This was April.  At that point, had they read through the scripts and were talking about S4, or were they just having fun?   (I'm lost with the timeline).  I'm just wondering  because of the comment in the post-TAB interview about Mark accidently letting something slip to Benedict (some major plot point?), but him not picking up on it - obviously at that stage, they hadn't let any of the actors know any major twist that they were planning.    However, by April, would Amanda have known that much about (presumably) the villain of S4?  (And of course, we're all wondering it SHE's the villain - even if she doesn't speak very quietly!). 

besleybean wrote:

Romance?
Dunno' how I feel about that!

Sorry, crossposted!  Well, it's a pretty broad term, and we don't know who it would involve - perhaps something from the past, given the hints.   Or even just a romantic feel to that episode.   I'm not expecting Mills and Boon!
 

besleybean wrote:

Actually, I think she dos speak fairly quietly...
But yeah, they will have had their scripts by then, even done the read through...they started filming in April.

Thanks!  Yes, April wasn't that long ago - for some reason I had a feeling the tweets were ages ago (even though I wrote April myself, it wasn't sinking in).   So yes, likely to be related to the actual scripts and the actual villain(s) given Rachel Talalays post.   Although given that she directed Ep1, it may just be that "shark" is the villain of Ep1 rather than the villain of S4.  Although it could still be Mary!  If you think she speaks quietly, then I can make most of the other points fit her.   But I'm still stumped by the plural and point no 10. 
 

Oh, yes.   I keep thinking that Magnussen was referred to as a shark (and really did look rather sharklike in that scene!), and fits in some other ways - he was fairly quietly spoken, drove on the right and so on.   BUT he actually did a wee on screen in HLV (in the fireplace) and he didn't do it sitting down!
 

I think Mycroft may be the Shark if Sherlock is the bloodhound.  Sharks are better at sniffing things out  and I am thinking of a card shark also and Sherlock trying to win the bet mentioned in TAB.
( With the fatality or death mentioned in TAB actually being sentiment or love ) -
Actually it wouldn't surprise me at all if the whole series was revealed to be some kind of brotherly game or rivalry over a bet .

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Liberty wrote:

besleybean wrote:

Romance?
Dunno' how I feel about that!

Sorry, crossposted!  Well, it's a pretty broad term, and we don't know who it would involve - perhaps something from the past, given the hints.   Or even just a romantic feel to that episode.   I'm not expecting Mills and Boon!
 

 
Yes, but we need to remember that the term "romance" does not necessarily refer to a love affair.  A romance also means a type of narrative or story depicting heroic or marvelous deeds in an imaginative setting - or a made-up story full of exaggeration and fanciful invention.
If nothing else, 'Sherlock' is certainly that.

besleybean wrote:

I would love that...but were they serious about the ' no twins' thing?

I don't know if they were serious (whoever knows if anything they say is ever true?), but it's in the rules of writing a detective story :
1. The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow.
2.All supernaural or preternatural agencies are ruled out as a matter of course.
3.Not more than one secret room or passage is allowable.
4.No hitherto undiscovered poisons may be used, nor any appliance which will need a long scientific explanation at the end.
5.No Chinaman must figure in the story.
6.No accident must ever help the detective, nor must he ever have an unaccountable intuition which proves to be right.
7.The detective must not himself commit the crime.
8.The detective must not light on any clues which are not instantly produced for the inspection of the reader.
9.The stupid friend of the detective, the Watson, must not conceal any thoughts which pass through his mind; his intelligence must be slightly, but very slightly, below that of the average reader.
10.Twin brothers, and doubles generally, must not appear unless we have been duly prepared for them.

source: http://www.thrillingdetective.com/trivia/triv186.html

Then again, it does say twin brothers...
 

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Janine Molly Adler wrote:

some interesting theories about the lady in red and the bus stop scene http://sherlockbuddy.tumblr.com/post/145907299949/the-bus-stop-scene

 

Interesting...Very interesting indeed. I really like that meta.

tonnaree wrote:

One of my favorite ideas about the Lady in Red is that she is a client that Sherlock failed to save and now she's in his MP helping him figure out how she died.

reminds me of Mr. Holmes