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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
tonnaree wrote:
One of my favorite ideas about the Lady in Red is that she is a client that Sherlock failed to save and now she's in his MP helping him figure out how she died.
I have a similar idea. There's a theory, she is actually Frances Carfax. Originally I wasn't sure about this, but in the light of recent events: what if MP Frances is helping to solve her own abduction?
(It also looks like Sherlock - again, escaped in serious condition from ambulance/medical care - kidnapping is more urgent bussines to solve)
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
Bluebeard shopping:
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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?
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Details about Martin´s scene:
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
it seems we will have some awesome mind palace scenes!
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
The ring is off! I repeat: the ring is off! 
Same location but Martin has changed his jacket and taken off his wedding ring.
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
The ring is off! I repeat: the ring is off!
Same location but Martin has changed his jacket and taken off his wedding ring.
*SWOON*
*THUD*
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
Shit. Still wearing it. 
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
I wonder what is inside his bag. Ransom for baby watson/Mary?
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Shit. Still wearing it.
Wait, what? Like, he put it on again?
Because fumbling with the ring is even more amazing if it's Sherlock's MP rather than reality.
I mean, regardless how I feel about Mary the character, she's the best thing that could have happened to the plot. See how much drama and angst and action she's caused? Yum!
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I wonder what is inside his bag. Ransom for baby watson/Mary?
Maybe Mary has thrown him out on his ass and he had time only to stuff his pre-folded shirts and a tooth-brush into his bag 
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
I fear he was wearing it all the time. Must have been a trick of the light. But there is still the change of clothing which is interesting. Same place on different days? And in front of a bridal shop of all things?
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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
I fear he was wearing it all the time. Must have been a trick of the light. But there is still the change of clothing which is interesting. Same place on different days? And in front of a bridal shop of all things?
John's wearing the ring is probably the best confirmation that Mary is still in, isn't it?
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
Probably. But the interesting thing is that these scenes are definitely directed by Rachel Talalay. So they must be ep. 1.
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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
Among over things...
Though to be honest, surely a new widower would still wear his wedding ring?
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I wonder what is inside his bag. Ransom for baby watson/Mary?
Maybe Mary has thrown him out on his ass and he had time only to stuff his pre-folded shirts and a tooth-brush into his bag
Lol and then he goes to Sherlock's and borrows his purple shirt for the night 
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
There are also some nice theories about the piece of paper he throws in the waste bin. My favourites are paternal test results or wedding ring wrapped in paper. 
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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
Doubt it's either.
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
He does look a little lost in that shot...
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Re: Series 4 Setlock (potential spoilers)
Among over things...
Though to be honest, surely a new widower would still wear his wedding ring?
Depends on if he killed her himself or not. *evil grin*
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I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
