(I thought it would shine through  )

Ok, I seem to recall it was a close-up of the upper-half of his face with focus on his eyes (opening). And the whispered "Mary" was heard in the background. But I might be mistaken.

 

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I just rewatched it. I might be wrong, but I'm wondering if he doesn't actually whisper Mary in the scene we see, when he opens his eyes. Could that whisper be later? 

Or we are over-thinking this and it might just be a continuity error.

Liberty wrote:

I think the heart restarting and the Sherlock waking up are two separate events, with the first closer to the beginning of the night and the second closer to Mary's arrival. 

If he'd said "Mary" just after his heart restarting, John probably wouldn't have known: he wasn't there.   I've watched it again, and to me it looks as if the breathed "Mary" is heard as Mary arrives - we don't actually see Sherlock say it (and it would be difficult just after his heart restarts, because he has stuff in his mouth).  

It looks as if shortly after the paramedics arrived, Sherlock had to be resuscitated.   We see him flatlining and see him coming round.  At that point, you can see the bullethole on his chest but nothing else.  By the time you see his chest clearly again there's a dressing on it, a lot bigger than the bullethole. 

My guess is that once his heart had restarted he needed emergency surgery.   John would have been able to see him after the surgery and was there when he started to come round from the anaesthetic, and that's when he heard him say "Mary".

Very plausuble, I´d say, I don´t think people would pay much attention to Sherlock saying "Mary" if it was that silent, in his heart-restarting scene.
 

nakahara wrote:

Wow, this made my day:

http://mild-lunacy.tumblr.com/post/115221618766/bbcatemysoul-mary-is-convinced-john-cant-love
 

The whole emotional tragic of S3 in a nutshell
 

"I laugh, because I will cry if I don't."

I didn't mean to make you sad, mrshouse! If it helps any (which I doubt it will), the other version of the quote is "I cry because I will laugh if I don't." Actually, you know what that's not any better...I'm sorry, I just saw Susi's post and it made me think of that.

Moved over from the old Mary thread:

(Well bumped, Harriet)

SusiGo wrote:

In some manner he had learned of my own sad bereavement, and his sympathy was shown in his manner rather than in his words.

This is all we get in Canon. 
 

To be honest, when I first read it three years ago, I didn't even get what that sentence was about. :-p

A short, cryptical paragraph - that is not the way to let an important character die. Hence I think it is save to say that in canon, Mary was not an important character.

They turned her from a background (except in the sign of the four)  to a central character, but a baddie, no, it's not settled in such a manichean way in the show. ( arff...here we are again...)

oh in real life maybe, but in the show, she's not shown as a baddie, let alone an adversary, the same way than Moriarty or Magnussen.

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