Did they say "the love of her life"? 

Thank you!

I'm just interfering a bit here and there... 

So......

Mattlocked wrote:

Did they say "the love of her life"? 

No. But they did say:She fits in with these two blokes
 

I think he means not with a completely black heart like Moriarty.
This is an example for me where you need the context and to see the wider discussion.
This for me shows they do not see Mary as irretrievably bad...she has a past.

Again, I think Mark is comparing her to the Callan character (or perhaps to Dirty Harry, but I still think Callan is a better fit) - an assassin who is sympathetic (not "totally evil").

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/05/callan-boxset-review-edward-woodward
But he is the show's moral compass, such as it is, displaying a sensitivity lacking in his fellow agents: posh Meres (Anthony Valentine) and cocky Cross (Patrick Mower). This he does by constantly questioning the orders of his boss, Hunter, and helping the section's unwitting victims.

besleybean wrote:

No. But they did say:She fits in with these two blokes
 

They also said:

"It’s not a ‘gang’ show, it’s the Sherlock and John show. It’s about developing their characters and their relationship, and the characters drawn into their orbit."

so they should put Mary back among supporting characters, IMHO and continue doing "John and Sherlock show". In their own words, it´s a show about two people, not three.

Liberty wrote:

Again, I think Mark is comparing her to the Callan character (or perhaps to Dirty Harry, but I still think Callan is a better fit) - an assassin who is sympathetic (not "totally evil").

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/sep/05/callan-boxset-review-edward-woodward
But he is the show's moral compass, such as it is, displaying a sensitivity lacking in his fellow agents: posh Meres (Anthony Valentine) and cocky Cross (Patrick Mower). This he does by constantly questioning the orders of his boss, Hunter, and helping the section's unwitting victims.

 
Hi lib. You may be right  .
My friends and I all thought - dirty Harry Callahan- and that it was a funny and apt comparison and I have heard  M Gatiss talking about Callahan before. However none of us had ever heard of Callan , I had to look up who / what that was and realised it aired 69-72, long before we were born and I think Moff would of been 5 or 6 . So it's likely they know that series and maybe do mean him though it is rather obscure .
I do think both characters fit well with dirty Harry Callahan also being an ex special marine turned rougue cop and that Marys comments at the empty house were very " go ahead make my day " ish .
I think many younger people listening to that comment may have made the same assumption 

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besleybean wrote:

I think he means not with a completely black heart like Moriarty.
This is an example for me where you need the context and to see the wider discussion.
This for me shows they do not see Mary as irretrievably bad...she has a past.

That makes sense to me, too.  Of course, Season 4 will solve the issue one way or the other.

 

kgreen20 wrote:

besleybean wrote:

Yeah, but they both have positive takes on her and there is the certain implication that meeting the love of her life made her good.

And that sounds good to me!  And John would not have asked her to marry him if he had not met the love of his life.

 

There are many reasons to propose to someone.  It's done for less than perfect reasons all the time.  It is a possibility that, in his heart, John decided to settle down with Mary because that was the best he could hope for now.