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Re: sherlock series 4 (spoilers inside)
Ooh.
But you know what I had completely forgotten about(but no doubt you lot not only remembered but have said!)...was in SIP, Sherlock's comment about Mycroft working for the CIA.
So maybe he has known Mary for a long time...
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- Yitzock
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Oh yeah....hmm...interesting, being CIA it's possible he was aware of her, though we don't know whether he saw Mary before His Last Vow, do we? So he could have been aware of her but not necessarily known John married her until then? If she didn't go by Mary Morstan before, isn't it possible she kept that new name secret and that the CIA might not have yet known about it, and then Mycroft saw her at Christmas and recognized her but didn't disclose?
Clueing for looks.
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Many interesting possibilities...
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- Lilythiell
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That casting call for a baby is for filming at the beginning of March
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Didn't we establish that Sherlock would be filming from the end of March/beginning of April?
I'm wondering if they are going to do another mini-episode that will be released a month before s4.
A minisode in which we know -among other things- what happens at the end of that pregnancy, maybe...
But that would be spoiling us Or rewarding us further for the loooong wait between series 3 and 4?
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Mycroft is the father! 
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Oh stop it! 
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Why ever not? Much darker than this boring outsmarting each other and running on cases and saving the world and so forth and so forth. 
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Well I like all of that stuff...
But no, I think the darker stuff is going to be related to a death...not that automatically precludes a questionable paternity of course. But I'm certainly hoping the baby's John's.
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God no!
But I think that she has been under surveillance for some time. He was aware of her. Though why didn't he warn John against her...Sherlock coming back home notwithstanding, the two of them -Sherlock and John- had had a relationship before his departure -put behind "relationship" what you will- , and loyalty was not questioned apart from that first meeting Mycroft had with John.
Mycroft should have warned John. Because he knows Sherlock would have insisted. No matter that "caring is not an advantage", Mycroft would have done so. Because he'd do a lot of things -he even did legwork!- for his little brother.
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I don't think John needed warning as such, he was in no danger.
Sherlock decided John needed to know, but not because he thought either of them were in any danger.
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Well I like all of that stuff...
But no, I think the darker stuff is going to be related to a death...not that automatically precludes a questionable paternity of course. But I'm certainly hoping the baby's John's.
Same here.
I'm pretty certain that Amanda has said that Mary loved John. I can't imagine her saying that if she knew that the paternity was...questionable.
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No, he wasn't, especially as Mary loves him.
"warning" must not have been the right word, I think. "inform him"?
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I don't think John needed warning as such, he was in no danger.
Sherlock decided John needed to know, but not because he thought either of them were in any danger.
Agreed.
"Don't get involved" gets a whole new meening, because there will be consequences to that in series 4.
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Yes.
But possibly Mycroft thought that Sherlock would be better telling John.
Though if she's working for Mycroft...
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Though if she's working for Mycroft, why let either of them know what her job was?
I think it's quite obvious that Mycroft considers John stupid -and Sherlock merely "slow".
He lives in a world of goldfish, after all.
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I do have a hunch Mycroft at least has a few files on Mary from before she met John... interesting
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Oh yes!
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