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August 21, 2014 8:14 am  #41


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

I think the writers and Mikkelsen did a brilliant job in creating a convincing villain who at the same time was so very different from Moriarty. 


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August 21, 2014 8:55 am  #42


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

Absolutely. And I think it's a bit sad that we only saw him for one episode. I guess it's only logical that they can't do it like they did it with Moriarty and have him there for two series, more or less. But just one episode... it feels like a bit of a waste, to be honest.

By the way, because the reunion was mentioned: I actually have a much bigger problem with the scene in the tube carriage in TEH. It still makes me feel uncomfortable to see how Sherlock manipulates John into accepting his apology. I kind of understand where Sherlock is coming from, but still... 


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August 21, 2014 9:02 am  #43


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

I can understand that. It is a difficult scene and while I have made my peace with it, it is still not easy to watch. As I said before, my favourite scene is the short one in the hallway at the end. "I heard you". 
 


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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August 21, 2014 9:06 am  #44


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

By the way, do we have a thread for scenes we could watch over and over and over and over again...? Because that scene, Susi, would definitely be among the scenes I could watch without end. 


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August 21, 2014 9:08 am  #45


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

Nope. You are free to open one anytime. 


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August 21, 2014 10:31 am  #46


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

SolarSystem wrote:

On Magnussen: 

I love all those tiny moments where you immediately realize what kind of a man and villain he is. So different from Moriarty, which is great. 

Which is exactly the reason why I don't only hope but firmly believe that Moriarty isn't coming back, at least not in the same role. After they've made the step towards presenting interesting and varied villains, it would be such a disappointment if they now just went back to Moriarty again. We've done the completely derailed psychopath now for more episodes than I care for, thank you, can we please have something NEW? It's unlikely we'll get someone as brilliant as Mikkelsen's Magnussen in every episode now, and I also seem to remember a quote from a Moffat interview where he said that you don't have to have one particular larger-than-life arch-enemy to have a good adventure/crime plot. So I'm very willing to make do with less three-dimensional, less elaborate baddies from now on as long as they remain interesting and varied. Lord Moran maybe was an all-tim low in terms of being a convincing villain (WHO is he? WHO does he work for? WHY does he want to blow up Parliament? HOW does Sherlock know he's a suspect? Do you all realise that his is not even a speaking part?) but I'd rather have more Lord Morans than the same old Moriarty over and over again...
 


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August 21, 2014 12:04 pm  #47


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

I'm honestly wishing for the Big Bad of S4 to be Moran.


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August 21, 2014 12:08 pm  #48


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

La Jolie wrote:

 and I also seem to remember a quote from a Moffat interview where he said that you don't have to have one particular larger-than-life arch-enemy to have a good adventure/crime plot. So I'm very willing to make do with less three-dimensional, less elaborate baddies from now on as long as they remain interesting and varied.
 

We know how the curse of the sequel works for baddies - the next one has to be more evil than the previous one, so at some point the plot becomes ridiculous, because how many times you can do that? But I'm sure Moftiss, being expierienced and smart writers, won't fall for that. They already created two totally different villains, the one we loved and the one we hated. In my opinion, it's good that Magnussen was only in one episode, I don't know if I'd handle his appearance in a whole season. 


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August 21, 2014 4:40 pm  #49


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

Episode: I really don't like TRF and it's the only one I've watched only three times (initial viewing, watching again before series three, and a final time after TEH). I still have no idea what's going on in it, what's real, and it leaves me feeling very frustrated.

Scene: Much as I love HLV, I skip over the scene of Magnussen molesting Lady Smallwood at the beginning. Just ick!

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August 21, 2014 6:19 pm  #50


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

I love every episode to bits and would never skip even the tiniest scene - though there are some I do not like too much. One that springs to mind is the "hiding in plain sight" conversation between Sherlock and Ms Wenceslas. I do not like Sherlock in his uniform and hat. Not at.all. Of course there are boring parts in the episodes as well. But even there I would find some surprising gold grains and interesting stuff in them.


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August 21, 2014 6:23 pm  #51


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

I'm with you to a certain extent.
I don't skip any parts
But I really don't think i can think of any boring parts..


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August 21, 2014 8:53 pm  #52


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

tonnaree wrote:

I'm honestly wishing for the Big Bad of S4 to be Moran.

Now that's a truly original and very interesting idea. Are you serious? Is there anything to support this theory?

I very much thought that the BBC Moran was just a one-off and only took his name from ACD's Colonel because he was chronologically the next villain in line after Moriarty. But now I think I'm loving the idea that there is more to him, that we may actually still learn something about him as a person and about his reasons for becoming a terrorist...

Maybe he's not just the next big villain but actually connected with Moriarty, just like his ACD namesake? Maybe it was he who engineered Moriarty's "return" at the end of HLV?

But then he's never mentioned in connection with Moriarty's vast network that Sherlock spent two years dismantling. Is it realistic to assume that Sherlock simply missed that link?

And we last saw Moran arrested for a crime that surely must have sent him to prison for the rest of his life. How to get out of that one? But then, Moftiss have written their way out of even tighter corners than that before...

Oh, this is WAY off topic. Tonnaree, I think we need a whole new thread of our own in the S4 Speculation forum...

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August 21, 2014 9:17 pm  #53


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

Actually, I think there already is  one!


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August 22, 2014 2:43 pm  #54


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

Marta wrote:

I usually fastforward the moment when Magnussen licks Lady Smallwood's face. It's disgusting. Also, I couldn't rewatch the scene when Magnussen peed in the fireplace in 221b for about two months. Finally, I did but I still don't feel well when I watch it. 

 
Marta, I'm right there with you. I know it's a credit to the writing, acting and directing, but I too skip as much of Magnussen as I can.


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August 22, 2014 2:46 pm  #55


Re: One episode or scene that you can't rewatch?

Can't rewatch the Christmas reconciliation scene for multiple reasons. I know it's considered super romantic but just makes me cringe with discomfort from beginning to end.
During the last hiatus I found TRF hard to watch with all those sad feelings at the end.


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