TeeJay wrote:

Well, it's not really a male vs. female thing or an avid vs. casual fan when it comes to the Johnlock vs. hetero discussion. I'm female and I consider myself in the avid fan category, and I don't see Johnlock at all. To me both Sherlock and John are clearly not gay, although I can see Sherlock swing in that direction, whereas with John I don't see it at all. (Although I do acknowledge that they both love each other in a certain way, but I have a hard time seeing the physical or sexual component.)

Well, I didn't mean to categorize it in that way, and as you may have noticed I did not only talk about Johnlock but about a couple of other things as well. But since you've mentioned Johnlock: I didn't mean to say that it's unusual for a male viewer to recognize Johnlock or that all female viewers see it - I know that's not the case. I was merely trying to point out what someone who is not a fan (and doesn't watch it in the OV) can see in the show without having all the 'background information' we as fans have.
 

Right, mrshouse. To me it's really interesting to see how people who I would define as 'normal viewers' see the show. Of course my boyfriend knows a bit more about it than the 'normal' audience does, just because I talk about it occasionally. Still, he makes up his own mind and isn't afraid to mention the things he doesn't like. For example, he thought that if they had ended S3 with Sherlock going away, that would have been too weak an ending. He liked that little Moriarty twist (and is sure that it isn't really Moriarty) - and I was quite surprised that he liked it, because I kind of expected him to react in a "Oh, come on, he's DEAD!" sort of way.
 

The figures:
"Mit «Sein letzter Schwur» endete an Pfingstmontag um 21:45 Uhr die aktuelle Ausstrahlungsperiode schon wieder - und lief mit durchschnittlich 13,6 Prozent bei 1,22 Millionen Zuschauern im Alter zwischen 14 und 49 Jahren einmal mehr toll."
http://www.quotenmeter.de/n/71211/sherlock-kommt-nicht-an-tatort-heran

Seems though that Sherlock lost against "Tatort". I watched the last ten minutes of it prior to HLV and thought: What a wooden and boring acting! Germans, I honestly don't understand you...
 

SolarSystem wrote:

tobeornot221b wrote:

Seems though that Sherlock lost against "Tatort".

But that's not such a big surprise, is it? After all, "Tatort" aired at prime time, which automatically means better figures than a show that starts at 9:45 p.m.
 

I think watching Tatort has become a German habit - no matter what the quality of the films may be. It's something the TV watchers wouldn't be scared by because it's like visiting an old aunt who you know what you can expect from. No experiments!
Since we know that NRW is full of Sherlock fans I prefer to blame the figures on the storm and the many power breakdowns.
 

Yes, possibly. And Tatort is reliable. They even have a pattern according to which the episodes are built. There is always a red herring at half-time or something like that. And people seem to like when they know what they get in advance. 
 

I completely agree, ladies. But what I meant was: It doesn't really matter what they show at prime time - whatever it is (Tatort, Rosamunde Pilcher, you name it) will always have more viewers than a show that airs at almost ten p.m.
Had they shown "Sherlock" at 8:15 p.m., the figures would have been better automatically, just because you reach a bigger audience at prime time.

Just after the airing they showed an advert for the DVDs which hit shelves today.
And - there will be lots of repititions in a loop as always in the regional "Third" channels.

My bookseller told me today that they are out of stock at their wholesaler. I take this for a good sign ;-)

Harriet wrote:

Those who sit down for the news and just stay there, right 

But then I was hoping for those who sit down for "Tatort" and just stay there..... 

BTW: I was one of those Germans who watched "Tatort" every sunday. Yes, it started in my youth (-> parents), and, after a little break, went on with hubby. It was a nice habit, like visiting an old aunt. (Well said, Tobe.  )
But now..... I enjoy my "free" sunday evenings. I seldom watch it now. I can't. I just can't............

Last edited by Mattlocked (June 10, 2014 8:57 pm)

The prime time problem again.
Prime time in the ARD especially at weekends simply is always "occupied" by the same kind of programmes. Impossible to gain a foothold. Even if they would try it on a Saturday.

Last edited by gently69 (June 10, 2014 9:03 pm)