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SusiGo · July 11, 2014 8:20 am

I already wondered why they interwove the "idyllic" Christmas scene with the dark Baker Street scene but this makes perfect sense to me. It very much undermines the forgiveness as we are constantly reminded of what happened between the three of them.

Lazarus · July 11, 2014 10:43 am

Ehhm...*clears throat*

http://imtooticky.tumblr.com/post/91342311421/more-clothes-vs-less-clothes

gently69 · July 11, 2014 10:47 am

LOL ... right ...

tonnaree · July 11, 2014 11:28 am

Lazarus wrote:
Ehhm...*clears throat*

http://imtooticky.tumblr.com/post/91342311421/more-clothes-vs-less-clothes

Is John trying to give Sherlock a hint? "Come and get your love"?

Lazarus · July 11, 2014 1:49 pm

tonnaree wrote:
Lazarus wrote:
Ehhm...*clears throat*

http://imtooticky.tumblr.com/post/91342311421/more-clothes-vs-less-clothes
Is John trying to give Sherlock a hint? "Come and get your love"?

Totaly! To subtle for our friend SH to notice though... but he will see, very soon (hopefully)!

Mattlocked · July 12, 2014 8:11 am

Just found this one. I don't even know what I'm doing here before breakfast, but well... there you are:

Edit: I somehow have the feeling it has been posted somewhere before. Ah, I don't mind.

Last edited by Mattlocked (July 12, 2014 8:12 am)

Lazarus · July 12, 2014 8:57 am

Can't see the pic Mattlocked
Don't wory, you're not the first one here. I've been up since 6.45 am and check this page just after breakfast

Mattlocked · July 12, 2014 8:59 am

@Lazarus It's a video.
Try this link then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rF8q_-6Yqk

Draconia · July 12, 2014 9:23 am

God damn.. and here are the tears again...
Isn't it strange...
The so cold stone hearted sociopath only got tears for a men who's " only " his friend.
I never believed that those men are only friends or brothers from a diverent mother.

Last edited by Draconia (July 12, 2014 9:24 am)

Lazarus · July 12, 2014 10:24 am

Thanx!
But...damn. I can't even...!
*gross sobbing*

ancientsgate · July 13, 2014 12:46 am

Mattlocked wrote:
Just found this one. I don't even know what I'm doing here before breakfast, but well... there you are:

Edit: I somehow have the feeling it has been posted somewhere before. Ah, I don't mind.

Well, I hadn't seen that before. Wow, loved the music, and the lyrics, say something, I'm giving up on you. *looks over at torn-out heart on the floor* Were there ever two men who belonged together as much as John and Sherlock? And can we imagine our Sherlock without the voice, face and body of the gorgeous, talented, dedicated-to-his-craft Benedict Cumberbatch? Pure magic. Kudos to the vidder, whoever they are.

SusiGo · July 13, 2014 8:57 am

Beautiful video, Mattlocked. Thank you so much for posting.

Harriet · July 13, 2014 9:22 am

Yes, it is quite extraordinary

gently69 · July 13, 2014 11:00 am

Oh, Mattlocked ... how lovely and ... heartbreaking.

tonnaree · July 13, 2014 11:35 am

General question for my fellow Johnlockers.

How do you respond to fans who make a great deal of the fact that Molly is so active in Sherlock's mind palace and John is no where to be seen? I have heard this many time sas evidance of canon Sherlloy.

A lovely light · July 13, 2014 12:33 pm

tonnaree wrote:
General question for my fellow Johnlockers.

How do you respond to fans who make a great deal of the fact that Molly is so active in Sherlock's mind palace and John is no where to be seen? I have heard this many time sas evidance of canon Sherlloy.

Not into Johnlock, but i see like this: Molly is the representative of science, Mycroft of logic, Moriarty of the dark side of the brilliant mind. So when he needs to focus in his mind palace, he takes their figures. John is more "his heart", appeals to his sentiments and emotionality, conect him with the outside world. When Irene is in his mind palace, Sherlock send her away and continues with his thinking, when John comes in, he gets out of the palace and is back to the reality.

But when he makes deductions, he communicates them through John to the outside world, like when he was with Molly in TEH but continues to speak with John in his mind and even calls Molly John.

Germansherlockfan · July 13, 2014 1:06 pm

A lovely light.[/quote wrote:

Not into Johnlock, but i see like this: Molly is the representative of science, Mycroft of logic, Moriarty of the dark side of the brilliant mind. So when he needs to focus in his mind palace, he takes their figures. John is more "his heart", appeals to his sentiments and emotionality, conect him with the outside world. When Irene is in his mind palace, Sherlock send her away and continues with his thinking, when John comes in, he gets out of the palace and is back to the reality.

But when he makes deductions, he communicates them through John to the outside world, like when he was with Molly in TEH but continues to speak with John in his mind and even calls Molly John.

I have to admit I haven´t thought about the mind palace specifically before, but your explanation sounds really good to me, it makes totally sense to me and it works very well either you´re into Johnlock or not.

tonnaree · July 13, 2014 1:26 pm

Yes, I like that idea very much.

John is definetely Sherlock's heart. And in the mind palace scene I think that's where he was trying to go when he ran into Mary in her wedding gown.

I read a long post on Tumblr yesterday that claimed to prove that sherlolly is canon. Just couldn't see it but I guess that's how some people feel when they read the case for johnlock.

Mattlocked · July 13, 2014 2:37 pm

Good explanation, A lovely light!
Also what is important is that in that scene Sherlock gets all the help and hints from Molly, Mycroft and even Anderson, but the reason why he in fact finally survives is John.

Schmiezi · July 13, 2014 2:58 pm

Well put, Matt.

Anderson is also an important part of the mind palace scene, but no-one considers that a prove for Anderlock (). So why should Molly's presence hint at something?