Lilythiell comments "oh dear the cupboard  is bare" makes me think they may as well have just said closet.

@moth I thought it was implied

Oh sorry lily. Yes I see now . Sorry

Adding to what I said previously, on having to work so that his hope (and ours!) be fulfilled, Sherlock must understand himself, get rid of his fears (which, in JL case, is not "courage in the face of danger") and self-deprecation. Otherwise John will not see it. Well, act on it, because it was pretty obvious that he had seen it by the end of series 3.
I wonder if John had understood the full implication of Sherlock saying what he said in his Speech and of the vow he made (and fulfilled), however.

@moth I think that Sherlock was having that exchange because he indeed feels that the man to man talk will happen -albeit on an inconscious level. As I've said in the thread Symbolism in TAB, Sherlock has come to acknowledge his feelings for John in TsOT, shared them even in his elation, and all but confirled them on the tarmac in HLV.
Now, however, he needs to come to terms with his sexuality as well for his hope to come to pass. He is clearly still uncomfortable with it all (he begs for death, for Christ's sake!) and that's why he is having the talk with himself, I suppose.
Oh. He's begging for death. He asks for Watson's revolver. "death is the new sexy" MP!Moriarty will later tell him [MP!Moriarty being nothing else but the representation of his fears and doubts, and generally speaking, his weakness as he tells Holmes on the precipice - and certainly not what he appears to be, i.e. Moriarty, Napoleon of Crime.
The more I think about that sentence, the more I  like it.
Quite obviously, it is a direct quote from Irene's "brainy's the new sexy" which, at the time, was her way of saying that even if wasn't interested in men in that regard, she found him to be her exception because of his intelligence -and that she was willing to go past her aforementioned sexuality, which was reinforced afterwards in quite an explicit manner..."I would have you on this table until you beg for mercy twice".

Now, let's take the sentence ADJ + is the new sexy as a way of saying "I will ignore the sexuality I know I have (not, in Sherlock's case. Yes, I know, it's debatable, but please let me finish) because of the exception I am presented with".
From what I've said on the link between death, revolver and gay sex (the revolver really couldn't be more obvious), I think we could translate "death is the new sexy" into "accepting your sexuality and attraction to John is good, you should go past your fear and let it go".

Can I just say I am having so much fun discussing this.   

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Oh dear, it hurts...
Sherlock's subtext seems to be on point. I'm not sure about John's...In any case, he better act on it!

Mothonthemantel wrote:

That is very funny lily I needed a laugh this morning.

Mycroft makes one of the most blatent comments with the do you think anyones believing you moment. There is little room for interpretation with that.
Wouldn't the subtext go something like -

Mary "aww your reading Johns blog about how charming and clever you are and how not gay John is ha ha."
Sherlock " It helps me with my brainwork..."
Mycroft "Give it up Sherlock your so obvious about your one and only feature of interest."

Oh yes!

Talking about Sherlock's one and only feature of interest...Well, Sherlock is only interested in John, and Moriarty kindly points it out.
Here's (part of) a transcript for the 221b scene with Moriarty.

Moriarty - What do you want, Sherlock?
Holmes - The truth.
Moriarty - That. Truth's boring. You didn't expect me to turn up at the scene of the crime, did you?
(...)
Moriarty - Stop it. Stop this, you don't care about Sir Eustace. Or the Bride. Or any of it. There's only one thing in this whole business that you find interesting.
(Is it just me or does he quirk his eyerow in a suggestive manner here?)
Holmes - I know what you're doing. The room starts shaking.
Moriarty - The Bride put a gun in her mouth and shot the back of her head off, and then she came back. Impossible. But she did it. And you need to know how. How? Don't you? It's tearing your world apart, not knowing.
Holmes -You're trying to stop me. To distract me, derail me...
Moriarty - Because doesn't this remind you of another case? Hasn't this all happened before? There's nothing new under the sun. What was that? What was that? What was that case, huh? Do you remember?

"You didn't expect to see me at the scene of the crime". Moriarty as embodiment of Sherlock's fears and sexuality linked to the "scene of the crime" -which implies that those fears could bring him to die. But then again, whywould he have been surprised, if he's more or less always thought that way? Incidentally, his line to Watson, "I made me" is heavy with implications, is it not?
Moriarty's comparison between the Bride's and his case (how is it possible), as well as his line "there's nothing new under the sun", leads me to think that Sherlock had already had a case of interest in someone, repressed his feelings and needs to know how it can have happened again despite his best efforts it didn't.

And, in the scene with Moriarty, I cannot stop thinking that Moriarty being the embodiment of his fears, when Sherlock says "you're trying to distract me, derail me" -which, incidentally, he also says in the Stranger's Room- he makes it apparent that to him his fears (and his sexuality, let's be honest, Moriarty has never been that provocative) are a distraction ("this is your heart and you should never let it rule your head"..."the crack in the lens"...).
The shaking could indicate some progress towards his acceptation of those? And...well, the elephant in the room has fallen, hasn't he? (good God, good riddance!) -even if it came back later in the episode, I think it is all very promising, JL-wise.


What do you mean, I'm getting farther and farther from the show?
 

Last edited by Lilythiell (January 5, 2016 6:16 pm)

I, President and Founder of the OSAJ, would like to grant The Abominable Bride our Official Seal of Johnlock Excellence. 

Our heartfelt thanks and appreciation go out to the fine team of artist who produced it. 

Anyone with the talent is free to design one.  I am pants at graphics. 

*joins in, sings Johnlock anthem at the top of my lungs*

(at the moment I'm still inclined to Johnlock Bells, but I'm sure we can find much better. Donde estas Yolanda ?)