Awww

I thought the names were very...fitting.


BBC Shop really needs to make a WATSON mug.

Oh yes he can...

All those lovely link, thanks you, everyone! 

But what I miss here is a real Johnlock discussion, too - since it's hardly possible in the other thread.

Yes, I agree. In the greenhouse Sherlock remarks: "Marriage is not a subject upon which I dwell." In those times in which only men and women could marry, this is roughly the same as the "not my area" exchange. It just means that he is not interested in marriage = being with a woman. 


 

Quite.
Shall we mention the digging in the cemetery -as a parallel to him finding and acknowledging his sexuality?
His endeavour fools neither MP!Mycroft nor MP!Lestrade (we are all agreed here, I presume, that this scene is still taking place in Sherlock's Mind Palace, albeit on a different "level" since it's in a different era ?), however.
"Oh dear, the cupboard is bare." I'd translate it like this: "brother dear, you do have impulses and a certain regard towards men which you do not have towards women. And it's apparent to anyone who cares to look. Except you, since you so strongly protest against having any kind of inclination."

And yes, I agree, the scene in the greenhouse is of paramount importance.
First of all, it's a greenhouse. Where things are protected and kept away from the outside world. Also suggests an isolated life. Remind you of anyone...?
Let's have a look at the meaning of a greenhouse in a dream, from a European POV:
-if one sees a greenhouse in one's dream -which happens at the beginning of the scene-, it is (supposed to be) a hint that one should not give up hopes -after all, a greenhouse represents the hope of a preserved life under difficult circumstances (weather), does it not?
– also suggests, if one sees a greenhouse, that one must exert oneself and work towards domestic luck and harmony with a partner., as neither of those will appear magically, by itself.

From this I find myself drawn to the conclusion that Sherlock is hoping for ...something with John. And given the nature of their discussion, it cqnnot be anything other than a relationship.
He should not give this hope up, but he will have to work for it to become more than just a hope.

There is another signification to the greenhouse in a dream -and that if one is sitting in it. It then implies that hopes will come true, however not always in such a way as one fancies it.
"darker and darker" much?
 

Good points. And another idea about greenhouses: They are transparent, they let in light. This is at night, so there is not much light, but the basic idea of a greenhouse is transparency. It might suggest that they are on their way to acknowledging their feelings but are not quite ready. 

And it reminds me of not to throw stones when living in a glasshouse as well. 

 

Last edited by SusiGo (January 4, 2016 10:19 pm)

In a word Harriet, yes~!       At least they most certainly be read that way.

How about my 5391 questions?

Sorry, I asked some questions close to your longer reply, and I didn't want them to be forgotten, though