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August 26, 2015 7:40 am  #4961


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

August 26, 2015 9:39 am  #4962


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

No, nothing at all


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August 27, 2015 7:05 am  #4963


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

August 27, 2015 7:07 am  #4964


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Yes. Just yes. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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August 28, 2015 4:33 am  #4965


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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I still believe that love conquers all!

     

"Quick, man, if you love me."
 

August 28, 2015 7:09 am  #4966


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

August 28, 2015 7:17 am  #4967


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

In Sherlock, every word is smutty - or so it seems.

http://cupidford.tumblr.com/post/127757355160/i-helped-him-put-up-some-shelves


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

August 28, 2015 7:24 am  #4968


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

I didn't know that one had been used metaphorically. Nice find, nakahara!


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

August 28, 2015 8:15 am  #4969


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

When Watson wakes up, Holmes is usually in his bedroom, ogling him, pretending to only be there due some business reasons.

http://sherloki1854.tumblr.com/post/127572138335/watsons-bedroom-and-holmess-regular-invasions


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

August 28, 2015 8:18 am  #4970


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Love this. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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August 28, 2015 1:37 pm  #4971


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Let us all praise canon evidence.   Canon be praised.


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August 29, 2015 3:23 pm  #4972


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
     Thread Starter
 

August 29, 2015 5:36 pm  #4973


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.  
Honorary German  
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

August 29, 2015 11:54 pm  #4974


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

tonnaree wrote:

Let us all praise canon evidence.   Canon be praised.

Praise the canon, indeed !
 


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August 30, 2015 2:24 pm  #4975


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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Proud President and Founder of the OSAJ.  
Honorary German  
"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

August 30, 2015 8:04 pm  #4976


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
     Thread Starter
 

August 30, 2015 8:13 pm  #4977


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

I heard about that one before, SusiGo, and it's quite awesome.

Since this seems like the fitting thread: Will any of you guys give me the background of the "softly, softly"-comment? I don't know the story to this one, I understand it was someting Mark Gatiss once said? But I don't know the context.


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August 30, 2015 8:20 pm  #4978


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Of course. It refers to this:

I always thought what Russell [T Davies] did in Doctor Who was extremely ground breaking in a slightly more subversive way than it looked like. It never occurred to me that it was too on the nose, what he did brilliantly was incidentally gay characters obviously as well as some more in your face ones. One of my favourite stories is Gridlock, there’s an elderly couple of ladies who are together and it just sort of passes by and that’s the way - softly, softly. That’s how the revolution happens as it were, you just become aware that people are incidentally gay. I think when the day comes that you have a big detective show where the first half hour was this man at work and he’s a maverick and all the usual things and then we went home and his boyfriend says, ‘Are you alright?’ it was just a thing, then something genuinely changed. I think the problem still is it becomes the issue. I think the thing with gay characters is that it has to be an issue as opposed to being part of everyday life, which of course as we all know is what it is.

Mark Gatiss in an interview in Gay Times, February 2012


The attitude towards incidentally gay characters in Dr Who has been continued by Steven Moffat, by the way. He has for example a crime-solving couple in 19th century who are a homage to ACD. Just that they are both female, married, and one of them is a green reptile-like alien. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
     Thread Starter
 

August 30, 2015 8:38 pm  #4979


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Ah, thanks for the quote.


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August 30, 2015 10:14 pm  #4980


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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