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December 30, 2014 8:48 am  #3341


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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December 30, 2014 8:51 am  #3342


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.   Independent OSAJ Affiliate

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December 30, 2014 8:53 am  #3343


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

 
This is definitely how the scene would have gone if Tessa....damn it!! 


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December 30, 2014 9:29 am  #3344


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

SusiGo wrote:

This is no jealousy, this is just … well … what did I want to say … he is happy for John … yes, happy that his ex-best friend came to the wedding …
 

   Yes, this is the scene I pointed out as an example of clear jealousy.   (When we were discussing how Martin could have shown it in the Janine scene). 

 

December 30, 2014 10:51 am  #3345


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Liberty wrote:

   Yes, this is the scene I pointed out as an example of clear jealousy.   (When we were discussing how Martin could have shown it in the Janine scene). 

This scene is written and acted as pure jealousy. The Janine scene can be debated, but the Irene/Sherlock scene seems quite upfront to be about jealousy as well ("... just if you're looking for baby names.")
 


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December 30, 2014 10:54 am  #3346


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Vhanja wrote:

Liberty wrote:

   Yes, this is the scene I pointed out as an example of clear jealousy.   (When we were discussing how Martin could have shown it in the Janine scene). 

This scene is written and acted as pure jealousy. The Janine scene can be debated, but the Irene/Sherlock scene seems quite upfront to be about jealousy as well ("... just if you're looking for baby names.")
 

 
Yes, thank you, Vhanja...


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

December 30, 2014 2:21 pm  #3347


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

December 30, 2014 3:48 pm  #3348


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

December 30, 2014 3:50 pm  #3349


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Yes, crystal clear....
This homonormative society of ours with those tons of role models for gay pairings is soooooo boring...

Last edited by mrshouse (December 30, 2014 3:51 pm)


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Eventually everyone will support Johnlock.


"If you're not reading the subtext then hell mend you"  -  Steven Moffat
"Love conquers all" Benedict Cumberbatch on Sherlock's and John's relationship
"This is a show about a detective, his best friend, his wife, their baby and their dog" - Nobody. Ever.

 

December 30, 2014 4:19 pm  #3350


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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December 30, 2014 4:22 pm  #3351


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

I like this scientific approach. 


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

December 30, 2014 4:58 pm  #3352


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

(I think this has been posted elsewhere but it illustrates quite well Benedict's strange behaviour regarding Sherlock and sex and therefore belongs in here).

Want to see a man known for his intelligence and education struggling with describing the sexuality of his character because he apparently is not allowed to tell the truth?

http://richardbrook.co.vu/post/106618720056/constancecream-the-wit-and-wisdom-of-benedict

I mean, really, this is Benedict who can deliver thoughtful 100-word-sentences about any given subject but as soon as Sherlock's sexuality is concerned he contradicts himself within the same paragraph and stumbles on the difference between asexuality and celibacy. 


 

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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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December 30, 2014 5:10 pm  #3353


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

Yes, very weird.
Vhanja posted this earlier today on Johnlock thread and I found it quite puzzling how the usually eloquent Benedict put the foot in his mouth on this subject.


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

December 30, 2014 5:21 pm  #3354


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

And not for the first time. And he even discusses wolves and dragons in more depth than Sherlock where he delivers the usual sociopath/asexual/non-asexual rubbish although his acting shows how well he knows his character. Very strange indeed. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
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December 30, 2014 7:49 pm  #3355


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


 

-Could you whisper...?
-NOT REALLY!!


 
 

December 30, 2014 7:57 pm  #3356


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

December 30, 2014 7:59 pm  #3357


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


 

-Could you whisper...?
-NOT REALLY!!


 
 

December 30, 2014 8:07 pm  #3358


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)


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I cannot live without brainwork. What else is there to live for? Stand at the window there. Was there ever such a dreary, dismal, unprofitable world? See how the yellow fog swirls down the street and drifts across the dun-coloured houses. What could be more hopelessly prosaic and material? What is the use of having powers, Doctor, when one has no field upon which to exert them?

 

December 30, 2014 8:17 pm  #3359


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

But the team says ...

Brilliant, lazarus.


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I still believe that love conquers all!

     

"Quick, man, if you love me."
 

December 30, 2014 11:15 pm  #3360


Re: The comprehensive Johnlock guide (Johnlockers only)

When I first read this, I thought - yes, THIS is honest to God what I want to ask Moftiss about!


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