What I like about shipping Johnlock is that it is not covered and drowned with sugary icing like warstan, well at least it felt for me like this. And it is often combined with Sherlolly, the happy foursome, fivsome, sixsome.....(with kids...).
I have to say that the pain was quite right after TRF, I kind of enjoyed it then, but after HLV the pain is truly pain. After TRF I just knew the two boys were commited to each other, but at the tarmac it felt like they were eons apart, never ever having truly processed from the fall and the seperation, and then John having decided to stay with Mary, them holding hands, just everything under the rug... That's just painful pain, if you know what I mean...

Oh, I hope they will end the show on exactly the right note - Sherlock and John being back together again, and we know and can be sure that it will be forever, in whatever shape or form. But the two of them against the rest of the world for the rest of their lives. 

And mrshouse, I know what you mean... I still feel that TRF is not completely resolved between the two of them. When it comes to that, I really feel that Mary was in the way. And well, with the end of S3... that leaves me pretty clueless and yes, it hurts quite a lot. But I have the hope that on the tarmac there was something else going on that we still don't know everything about.

Some thoughts on Sherlocks low self esteem and Mary using it to manipulate:
http://archipelagoarchaea.tumblr.com/post/75301464683/sherlocks-terrible-sense-of-self-worth-and-how-mary

SusiGo wrote:

Yes, I hope so, too. And I am sure the reunion would have been different without Mary. But maybe the writers thought that the way it went in Canon was too easy - Holmes coming back to a sadly bereaved Watson willing to take him back. 

But even without Mary they could have given us a reunion with an angry John. Yes, in the BBC version Mary is John's saviour and at the same time she is the one who apparently brings the boys back together again. "I'll talk him 'round" and all that. But if you ask me, there was no real need for Mary, there would have been other ways to bring them back together again - and especially to bring them back together in 221B. 
 

Schmiezi wrote:

I still love the fact that Mary exists, because I really love to dislike her on Sherlock's behalf.

Good point. Mary is paramount.
 

mrshouse wrote:

......after HLV the pain is truly pain. After TRF I just knew the two boys were commited to each other, but at the tarmac it felt like they were eons apart, never ever having truly processed from the fall and the seperation, and then John having decided to stay with Mary, them holding hands, just everything under the rug... That's just painful pain, if you know what I mean...

Smile and enjoy it. It's just a TV show. *ducks as shoes are thrown*  Seriously. All I thought after the tarmac scene was what a couple of bloomin' idiots they both are. I know they're not really, they're just written that way, but sheesh!  Sherlock is a girl's name?  Of all the stupid idiotic things I thought might come out of Sherlock's mouth in that moment, I confess that wasn't even on the list. *goes away mumbling to self*
 

Just like I mentioned before: You know that you are reading a good fic when you feel the need to take the boys, drag them outside by their ear and make them confess their love for each other, for otherwise they would get detention until they finally got their stuff together.
I have the same feeling when watching that tarmac scene.

SolarSystem wrote:

..... if you ask me, there was no real need for Mary, there would have been other ways to bring them back together again - and especially to bring them back together in 221B. 
 

Gatiss and Moffat are self-confessed ACD fanboys; they love the original canon. And then there's the all-too-apparent fact that all writers for all TV dramas everywhere love M/F ship....  so it was natural for those two male writers to want to bring a female love interest into the show, since TPTB think it makes people watch. And then there was Amanda A, who is an attractive, talented actress, who has the MF tie-in, and who needed a job. The rest, as they say, is history. So IMO, of course they had to bring in Mary....  ACD did it, AA made a good Mary, and there ya go.

The question is, now that Moftiss have painted themselves into a Mary-and-baby-sized corner, what in hell they're going to do about them now.


 

mrshouse wrote:

Aaaaand just found this...interesting...
http://sherlockmeta.tumblr.com/post/78840582547/a-bit-of-a-body-language-deduction

"Look Sherly, I can protect you and our babies"!

rotflmao

Apart from the fact that his shirt blends in perfectly with the tiles in the kitchen... ... wow. That's heartbreaking, even when you just have the gifs and the text and not the real thing.