Bravo Solar!

I didn't say that I don't want Johnlock in the show, Solar. I am just not that confident it will happen.

My post wasn't even directed at you, gently.

You are allowed to say the word.

SolarSystem wrote:

Personally, I want to see them kiss each other - and even that might mean something else to another Johnlocker, because there are different kinds of kisses.  

I'd pay real money to see them kiss each other, but I have zero hope and faith that it'll ever happen in the show, simply because the show is fabulously popular, a big money-maker; no way would TPTB shove a wrench into the cogs of that wheel and risk bunging things up financially.

Remember the old adage, don't mess with success?  Why would they risk losing their male viewers, as well as the legion of non-johnlock people, after all, to try to please us johnlockers, all of whom have a different idea of what (and to what degree) we'd actually like to see in the show?  It'll never happen, IMO.

I WOULD like to see an end to those longing looks they've been having Sherlock give John since this thing started. The poor man looks like a lost puppy dog. I want to throw something at him and yell, "Do something! Say something!  For crying out loud, move it or lose it, and put us all out of our misery!"  But again, if they can't write full-blown johnlock into the show, I'm not sure how I expect Sherlock to stop with the puppy dog eyes.

I do love that he's so utterly clueless about his importance to John (THAT cluelessness makes me want to throw something at him, too, lol), as he was when he came back after his fall, as he was in that lovingly written and acted scene when John sat in the kitchen at 221b and asked Sherlock to be his best man.

Sherlock's a smart cookie, and I dunno, but if he woke up emotionally just a little bit, I'd find that satisfying. No need for (Brit expression) actual snogging on the show (or more), IMO.  But some awareness and acknowledgement of the importance of John Watson in his life would be welcome. To me.

So just some thoughts.
 

SusiGo wrote:

Well, to me in series 3 John was the one who had not clue about how much he mattered to Sherlock. Just think of his "Who would he protect?" in HLV. I think they basically know that they are important to each other but not how important.

Of course, it's true that both of them are pretty darned clueless. Which I find believable enough, since after all, a lot of people can't see what's right under their noses, especially men people. I'm more than ready to see them to buy a ticket to the clue bus and actually climb on, however. Even if I don't believe they will.

As for the other thing - BBC has publicly stated that they do not so much care about international reception in their shows but concentrate first of all on their British audience.

Are they shopping the show all around the world for artistic reasons then?  Not for the money?  Sorry, I don't believe it. Not "caring" what anyone from other societies thinks sounds a bit cavalier, considering what's at stake. Financially.

And they have also stated that they try to prepare their audience for LGBTG stories by advancing slowly, a perfect fit for Sherlock.

This is "slowly", all right. Good grief. Snails have nothing on that show. So few episodes, spaced so very very far apart, and such slow character development. I find all of that very frustrating, but then, I'm used to USA TV drama shows that give us 22 episodes per calendar year. They've been danging johnlock in front of the viewers' eyes since the very beginning, and that's fine, but sorry, I think it's time for them to move it along a bit.  Or not. One or the other. I get frustrated, watching the johnlock carrot hang in front of my face. Sure it's fun sometimes, but I do want to pull my hair sometimes.

To me this express policy shows that they are not afraid to show such things in a successful show. This may not apply to other countries but this is a very British show and they seem to think that their audience at home is ready for this. 

So if they're so ready, do you suppose S4 will blow johnlock wide open?  Do you actually believe that?  Not criticizing, I'm genuinely curious if you (or anyone here) actually believes that S4 won't just give us more of the same. Time will tell, of course. But it's wicked hard to wait. And wait. And wait. And wait some more.
 

I can certainly see Moftiss doing it that way.  Last scene of the last episode.  And possibly not even a kiss.  Just John touching Sherlock's face or (better) coming out of Sherlock's bedroom!  Just something to make us all pass out from happiness.

tonnaree wrote:

I can certainly see Moftiss doing it that way.  Last scene of the last episode.  And possibly not even a kiss.  Just John touching Sherlock's face or (better) coming out of Sherlock's bedroom!  Just something to make us all pass out from happiness.

That's my idea exactly. Or at the end of a case they return back to 221B and they take their jacket and coat off, and in the very last scene we get we see them turning towards each other and John lovingly touches Sherlock's face and then Sherlock takes John's hand and... yeah, well, you know...
Seriously, I guess we all agree that we won't ever see them naked in Sherlock's bed together. And in my opinion something like this wouldn't fit the show anyway, however bad I'd like to see it happen. That's just not the show, it wouldn't seem natural to the show. But there are so many other possibilities... possibilities that might not even feel all too intrusive to viewers that don't know about Johnlock or don't see it, but that give us Johnlockers a bit more than what we've got so far.
 

Schmiezi wrote:

ancientsgate wrote:

So if they're so ready, do you suppose S4 will blow johnlock wide open?  Do you actually believe that?  Not criticizing, I'm genuinely curious if you (or anyone here) actually believes that S4 won't just give us more of the same. Time will tell, of course. But it's wicked hard to wait. And wait. And wait. And wait some more.
 

I think we will get more in S4 than before. They said that there is a story arch for S4 and S5, so maybe we will have to wait for S5 for more than a gentle touch. But generally, yes, I believe that we will see it. And it will be unique and tasteful and heartwarming in their own funny way. I would bet that the creators avoid clichés and make it really wonderful.

That sounds perfect.
 

Mah, and she's really rubbing it in, right?