mrshouse wrote:

They must have chosen different settings for Mary's almost shooting CAM and Sherlocks shooting him deliberately: the one sneaking in to protect her secrets, the other one waiting until he's in plain sight. Not that I'm happy with Sherlock shooting, not a bit! I have as much trouble with that as with regarding Mary's deeds or plans as proof of strength, efficiency and prevention of evil. I find Sherlock being all alone left out for his deed and Mary safe back and comforting John as evil as it can get tbh. More evil than the suicide of a side character.

Let us speak about Mary´s and Sherlock´s deeds in terms of ancient germanic law:

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(Because the deed was done openly and the perpetrator freely confessed to it, it wasn´t seen as something completely anti-social, because the person was prepared to bear the responsibility for it. It was a manly, sincere way to act.)

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(This deed is really morally reprehensible, because the murderer gains from his awful conduct and remains unpunished.)

Even if the result of Mary´s shooting of CAM and Sherlock´s shooting of CAM was absolutelly identical (=dead CAM), from the POV of ancient law it is incomparable. Sherlock´s deed is a clear Víg while Mary´s is Mord.
 

Last edited by nakahara (November 9, 2014 9:32 pm)

Well, it is not just about her being a murderer that makes people dislike her. 

Though hopefully she's given all that up now.

It would be interesting to know where she got the gun from...I suppose John keeps his gun, too!

Thoughts about Mary.

Right, I didn't realise that. Like: "She was young and needed the money"?

It would really ruin the plots of ASIP and HLV if they didn't keep their guns!  We couldn't have John saving Sherlock with an impromptu weapon fashioned from a stone in a sock!  Or Mary trying surgery on Sherlock with nail scissors!  Or Sherlock trying to destroy Magnussen's vaults using baritsu, the Japanese system of wrestling!

True. Of course they needed their guns, plotwise. Though I wonder why Mary kept her combat outfit as well. Just imagine John finding it in the wardrobe. 

But they wanted to include Leinster Gardens so badly, so they just had to rewrite the whole script to have someone with an empty facade on the show! But then they also wanted to keep Mary.. a dilemma. Enter the surgery-explanation.. An empty facade, but still the much beloved kick-ass snarky mother of the trio. No one would ever do that, but you kind of buy it because of the way it´s edited into the forgiveness-scene. And remember you switched off your brain regarding Mary anyway. Brilliant! Problem solved.. (oh dear, I´m going bitter, aren´t I? ^^)

Yes, they said they'd wanted to use Leinster Gardens in The Empty Hearse, didn't they?   Do you think that they made it a metaphor for Mary and changed her character just so that they could use it in HLV?  Oh dear. 

They do keep saying that Mary was showing strange behaviour even before HLV but Sherlock missed the clues because he liked her.  I think there are clues, but, actually what I see as the strange behaviour for all of them is the obsessing over the minutae of the wedding.  And even having that showy wedding in the first place, with virtually no family to invite.   But why shouldn't an ordinary, non-criminal nurse, like her husband's exciting best friend?  Urge him to continue to keep doing what he likes?  Have some knowledge of skip codes?  Not be fazed by death (she'll have seen plenty)? 

Last edited by Liberty (November 10, 2014 7:49 am)