It was different for me, because I came late to the series and already knew that Mary wasn't what she seemed.   But I struggled with TSOT and even given the commentaries I still have problems.   If both Mary and John craved excitement, etc., then why obsess so much over the details of a wedding?  Were they just trying to avoid their true natures?  I wish there was a TSOT commentary too, but I doubt that it would be very revealing. .

If there are any particular bits you want from the HLV commentary I can try to transcribe them (although it won't be until tomorrow night at the earliest). 

Last edited by Liberty (November 5, 2014 9:51 pm)

I think John tried to persuade himself that living with Mary in the suburbs and working as a GP was what he craved after going through the hell of Sherlock's death. He wanted something completely different that did not remind him of his dangerous life with Sherlock that finally killed his friend. 
He only later realises that this is not what he wants. And I think he realises this the moment he is in his marriage WITHOUT going on cases with Sherlock. He did during the engagement as we see in TSOT but not after the wedding. 

Last edited by SusiGo (November 5, 2014 9:53 pm)

Sherlock and John? I very much hope so. Everything else would possibly ruin the show. 

I can accept that in grief he became blind to his own motivations, but he could have lived in the suburbs and so on without fussing over the minutae of an expensive wedding.  But John is clearly, obviously (even to himself) bored with his life when Sherlock comes back.  It doesn't ring true that he would go that far, especially as he had a girlfriend/wife who also couldn't go more than 6 months without a "case".  In that sense, I suppose the point was that Sherlock saved them - with him in their lives they didn't need to seek excitement and could convince themselves they were happy with that stuff ... but instead, they end up drawing Sherlock into it their world, as much as he draws them into his. 

Mrs House, I thought they meant the three were a team during S3 (solving the case at the wedding, etc.), not that they were going to continue as a team into S4.  But I suppose it could mean that?

 

Last edited by Liberty (November 5, 2014 10:03 pm)

mrshouse wrote:

No, they mentioned the threesome as team, if I'm not mistaken.

I really do not see how that could work for me. Sorry but in this case I would prefer them to stay very true to canon. I know I have no influence but it is not the show I came to love. 

mrshouse wrote:

No, they mentioned the threesome as team, if I'm not mistaken.

The threesome plus baby.. 
 

Gosh, I feel a recall of hyperemesis gravidarum...

mrshouse wrote:

Gosh, I feel a recall of hyperemesis gravidarum...

Need a kidney dish?

SusiGo wrote:

What comforts me a bit is the announcement of a dark season. I mean, we had quite a lot of darkness in series 3 but everything is better than a rom-com with Sherlock babysitting while Mary wields her gun in a dark alley. 

I don´t know, but somehow the prospect of bad things that will inevitably happen to good girl Mary, the boys grieving for their lovely friend and wife.. doesn´t really comfort me. Fortunately I´m almost over being emotionally invested..  *keeps telling that to herself* 
 

Last edited by Zatoichi (November 5, 2014 10:23 pm)