Schmiezi wrote:

Reading a fanfic in which Mary dies in a car crash, I just realised I don't want her to die by accident or disease. I hope that the character leaves the show (one way or another) for a reason.

(Sounds a bit morbid, but then, the whole thread does.)

Is it possible I know that fanfic? 
Yes, it is true, a "normal" accident would be an easy way out but I do not really think they will go that way. 

silverblaze wrote:

I think they'll either go very big and she'll die in a dramatic way or they will defie all expectations and let her live. I mean, they do love to be unpredictable, which in itself may become predictable. 

I think Mary will figure in the show as long as AA wants the role, that's what I think. Don't hold your breath for Mary to go away in any way, shape or manner anytime soon, not as long as AA is having a lark and wants to stay. She's "family".  *rolls eyes*
 

mrshouse wrote:

I feel somehow similar, ag, ans it makes me feel uncomfortable. Not the best reason to keep an actress in the project.

Well, time will tell all. And meanwhile, none of us are privileged to know for sure why Amanda was cast in that role, what she feels about staying with it and for how long, what the showrunners and writers want, or anything else. For them to know and us to find out, eventually!
 

No, I don't think that's the reason, why is everyone so negative? I really think Moftiss just want to tell the best story they can come up with. I don't believe in conspiracies. I do think that everyone believes that Mary dies, and Moftiss know that, and they like to be unpredictable, so therefore it's a possibility that she might live for that reason only. 

silverblaze wrote:

No, I don't think that's the reason, why is everyone so negative? I really think Moftiss just want to tell the best story they can come up with. 

Much as I strongly suspect I would not like Amanda in the real world, I think she is perfect as Mary and thrilled that she was cast in the role. I really can't imagine anyone else playing Mary. The chemistry with Martin is there (obviously) and she is perfectly able to go from sweet to murderous with just a glance. There is some nepotism in the casting of this show, but, really, can you imagine anyone but Mark as Mycroft or Louis Moffat as young Sherlock? I trust that they all know what they're doing and that Amanda will only be around as much as she needs to be.

Mary

I agree entirely.  She  was the perfect choice.

I agree, Schmiezi. This would be perfect storytelling for me and it would feel just right.
I'm not even sure anymore I want her to die, because as we all know death is pretty relative thing in the show. Also, death might even be a bit too merciful.
I'd love Mofftiss to use the Special to tidy up the show a bit, if you know what I mean. Mary, Moriarty (in whatever shape or form) and then start with a 'cleaned hard disk drive' into S4. Probably won't happen like that, would be too neat and everything.

 

Last edited by SolarSystem (November 22, 2014 10:27 am)

Although I didn't even consider him to be a loose end until the end of HLV. Maybe I missed something before that, but to me Jim was already history. Of course, if it should turn out that there is a connection between him and Mary, we're on a different page again. But I would really like a fresh start with Jim out of the way. And Mary, for that matter.

Schmiezi wrote:

And I feel the need to rephrase my post (wrote it at 6 in the morning after a sleeples night). I hope that Mary's fate, whatever it might be, happens to her because John makes the decision that he no longer wants her around.
(And now I go back to my little Johnlock corner and ignore the rest of the world for a while.)

*speaks up from my own johnlock corner*  Yeah, but the baby....  it complicates *everything*. I can see John telling Mary to take a hike (or taking a hike himself), but that baby! If in fact the baby is John's, I don't see him ever turning his back on it. Ever. Maybe the John character is (to me) someone who's been heavily influenced by what I've read in fan fic, but even just looking at BBC canon, I see John as a person of honor, and (my) John would want to do the right thing, which we all know is not always the easy thing.

I still say that whatever the writers do with Mary, they're going to have to tread carefully with the baby issue, because I don't think the Sherlock fandom is going to be happy if they don't. Love Mary or hate her, the baby is an innocent bystander.



 

SolarSystem wrote:

Then give the baby to Mary and they both leave together. Because seriously, I don't see a baby on this show, I just don't. Of course it is innocent, and even if John isn't the father... they have to find a 'decent' way to deal with it. It won't be an easy way out, I don't think there exists an easy way out in this case. Whatever they'll do, it will break John's heart. But again, the baby can't stay.

I know the writers have said that Sherlock is "a show about a detective". So IMO they need to work a bit harder to keep us all out of soap opera land. But...  when they do this shippy stuff, getting the guys involved with women, an element of soap opera can't be far behind. I think introducing a baby into the mix, especially with a mom who isn't exactly a spring chicken anymore (and neither is the supposed father, either, come to think of it), well...  they must have had their reasons. So what in heck they're going to do with the kid, I can't imagine. I can't picture Sherlock and John doing their thing with a baby at home somewhere, you know, especially without Mary around. It's intriguing to think about.... whatever the writers do, I imagine most of us will end up wanting to throw a shoe at the TV when we see it.