How can anyone (ok, who isn't a Johnlocker) think Sherlock said that in a romantic way?? There's something like friendship, and they can love each other just as friends, and nothing more. 

But we have to accept the writers' vision and not impose ours.

besleybean wrote:

But we have to accept the writers' vision and not impose ours.

Why should we accept the solely writers' visions?
As far as I remember Moffat said the other day that the viewers were free to interpret the script because "I'm just the writer."

tobeornot221b wrote:

besleybean wrote:

But we have to accept the writers' vision and not impose ours.

Why should we accept the solely writers' visions?
As far as I remember Moffat said the other day that the viewers were free to interpret the script because "I'm just the writer."

Agreed. And who are we imposing it on?

Everybody should be able to take away what they want from the show and think what they want.

There is no right or wrong answer....

But isn't it beautiful what they DON'T say to each other? That's one of the many things I love about this show, the dialogues, especially Moffat's, are so full of subtext that they almost become non-sequtars. 

Honestly, if you want on-the-nose dialogues, watch a soap opera. I prefer a little more intelligence in the writing departement. 

See, I still find that difficult.
Everybody is free to have their own vision...but they can't impose that on sombody else's.

This is what does happen:
3 writers write stories and characters a certain way.
They hand the product over to actors who perform them in a certain way.
A director films this, in a certain way.

None of them blunder around thinking : who am I and what am I doing?

Deilenn wrote:

Ozma wrote:

Deilenn wrote:

How can anyone (ok, who isn't a Johnlocker) think Sherlock said that in a romantic way?? There's something like friendship, and they can love each other just as friends, and nothing more. 

 I am on the fence here, but I do think that the beauty of this show - and of being free to discuss it here- is that everybody sees it through different eyes and has different ideas which they are free to pursue. You don't have to like what doesn't work for you 
 

I know and I agree I still thought it was quite obvious that Sherlock's not confessing his love for John in this was some people think, haha ;]

The thing is, and I know I'm not the only one, that I wasn't a Johnlocker. I was open to the idea 'cause well, it could be. Many adaptations have a gay Sherlock, so yeah why not.
But I didn't see that "love" that others saw. John was happy dating girls and Sherlock had no interest in love whatsoever (except to put it in a test tube).
It's just NOW, this season over, that I begin to seriously consider the possibility. 'Cause it's there. You don't throw your life away, all that you've ever known, going to death itself for just a friend you'll never see again. I mean, you do not commit murder, you find another way. And even less being Sherlock Holmes, king of Confusing Inextricable Paths.
So yeah... that pretty sums it up xD I didn't see it then, but I can see it now.

Anyway as my signature says, an opinion is not valid just for being an opinion. You can't impose it (most of the time, I think there are exceptions), but you can question it.

Last edited by Amy Airiel (January 14, 2014 9:53 pm)

see? this is why it's interesting.

Imagine if we all thought the same. Or even worse, if we had no opinion at all.

HLV was a really challenging episode to watch for me, but thanks to this forum I was able to hear many different points of view and expose myself to theories and ideas that I hadn't even thought aboutm and that has been really good for me.

Isn't this great?

Amy, I've made a somewhat similar experience. I've been a johnlocker, but only in terms of fanfic etc. This is the first time I actually see it on screen. As I stated before somewhere: I would have bought it if Sherlock had confessed his (romantic) love at the airplane.