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Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
I'm amazed that some people didn't like The Sign of Three at all although I have no idea how it was for someone who isn't a fan of the show.
Still, as much as I loved it, polls and general public's opinion matter so I'm asking you to please take the time and vote NO on The Guadian's "Has Sherlock jumped the shark?" poll. The link to vote bellow:
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
36% of the people don't like it? WHAT'S THAT? I agree that the episode was unusual but absolutely well-done, emotional and clever.
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They didn't. I don't know how this series would jump the shark anyway.
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
Swanpride wrote:
I think it is mostly the haters coming out of the woodwork...most critics I have read are from people who don't like the show (but watch it anyway????)...you know, success breeds contempt. It's no wonder that it happened.
I totally agree with you but we need to make our voice heard anyway.
I'm sure many people is envious of the show's success as well as their actors'.
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It is obvious why fans like us adore it but on the other side, I don't see why non-fans would not like it. Too personal maybe? Not enough crime?
I like that the writers actually had the balls to try something new. It worked out well in my opinion.
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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."
"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."
"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
The only thing that matters is ratings. I can rail against X-Factor all day, but as long as people watch, it will continue to be renewed and absurd. I don't really care about arguing with a newspaper critic about a show that I and many others enjoy. Unless the ratings drop dramatically, their critique won't matter at all.
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Honestly, after explaining goldfishes on the Telegraph article that their so called plot holes aren't any and that they should better pay attention to what was going on (one seriously argued that killing the guard by going over the shower door would work, another one complained that Sherlock threw up ON John's wedding (I guess the concept of a flashback was too complicated) and another one claimed that Sherlock should have noticed the extra alcohol in his beer...because it is so easy to notice alcohol in alcohol, especially when you are already drunk), I'm tired of this nonsense...I like my little happy squee hole here.
What nonsense people are capable of... I agree with you here. Let's just stay away from that negative energy...
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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."
"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."
"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
Honestly, after explaining goldfishes on the Telegraph article that their so called plot holes aren't any and that they should better pay attention to what was going on (one seriously argued that killing the guard by going over the shower door would work, another one complained that Sherlock threw up ON John's wedding (I guess the concept of a flashback was too complicated) and another one claimed that Sherlock should have noticed the extra alcohol in his beer...because it is so easy to notice alcohol in alcohol, especially when you are already drunk), I'm tired of this nonsense...I like my little happy squee hole here.
What nonsense people are capable of... I agree with you here. Let's just stay away from that negative energy...
*nods* I agree.
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I think it´s completely OK to have different opinion on anything. some people just don´t like Sherlock, which doesn´t make them bad or stupid.
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I think it´s completely OK to have different opinion on anything. some people just don´t like Sherlock, which doesn´t make them bad or stupid.
Absolutely. 
(doesn't mean I understand how people can not love it, hehe 
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
Hm, well, it would be interesting to see how many people voted.
36% is a difference when there have been 10 people in total... or 1.000
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
To balance this here is a five star review from The Times:
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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
Honestly, after explaining goldfishes on the Telegraph article that their so called plot holes aren't any and that they should better pay attention to what was going on (one seriously argued that killing the guard by going over the shower door would work, another one complained that Sherlock threw up ON John's wedding (I guess the concept of a flashback was too complicated) and another one claimed that Sherlock should have noticed the extra alcohol in his beer...because it is so easy to notice alcohol in alcohol, especially when you are already drunk), I'm tired of this nonsense...I like my little happy squee hole here.
Those kinds of opinion remind me of what Orwell said in 'Politics and the English language.'
"People who write in this manner usually have a general emotional meaning -- they dislike one thing and want to express solidarity with another -- but they are not interested in the detail of what they are saying." G.O.
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
To balance this here is a five star review from The Times:
Lovely review but as the writer of the blog points out, Andrew Billen obviously didn't understand The Bloody Guardsman plot.
Which bothers me only a little when I think that other people use that sort of misunderstanding to justify their bad reviews.
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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."
"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."
"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
The writers have to match the enormous expectations of the audience, whilst also staying fresh and not repeating oneself. Better them than me. They've taken us to new places and of course they're not gonna make everybody happy, how could that ever be possible? If they stuck to a 'baddie of the week' format there'd also be critisism. I love TGG, but nine episodes just like TGG would be boring.
Instead they've shown that they are daring and imaginative and think outside the box. I hope they don't listen to the critics.
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
To balance this here is a five star review from The Times:
Lovely review but as the writer of the blog points out, Andrew Billen obviously didn't understand The Bloody Guardsman plot.
Which bothers me only a little when I think that other people use that sort of misunderstanding to justify their bad reviews.
You are right.
Although it is quite obvious why he chose the guardsman: He wears a uniform belt. He must stand still during his watch. He must endure people taking photographs. Ideal target, I would say. And no connection to the murderer either.
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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
To balance this here is a five star review from The Times:
Lovely review but as the writer of the blog points out, Andrew Billen obviously didn't understand The Bloody Guardsman plot.
Which bothers me only a little when I think that other people use that sort of misunderstanding to justify their bad reviews.
You are right.
Although it is quite obvious why he chose the guardsman: He wears a uniform belt. He must stand still during his watch. He must endure people taking photographs. Ideal target, I would say. And no connection to the murderer either.
Yeah. Until now I haven't found any plot holes but then I haven't been actively looking for them either.
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"Falling is just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination."
"Sherlock Holmes is a great man, and I think one day—if we’re very very lucky—he might even be a good one."
"Would you like to-"
"-have dinner?"
"-solve crimes?"
"Oh"
- Mattlocked
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"I doubt if I have ever seen drunkenness — the battle between sleep, hilarity and propriety — so well done."
This. I admit I was a bit afraid when they started. But it was never overdone or ridiculous. As I've seen it from time to time. Just realistic and funny.
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Re: Say to The Guardian that Sherlock hasn't jumped the shark!!
What the heck does jump the shark mean anyway? Sorry for my goldfishness.
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