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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Possibly...I'm beginnig to get an episode plot in my head, anyway...
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
The second episode is called wedding so I assume that John won't be married yet in episode one, mybe they both (Sherlock and John) get to know Mary in different ways and through her John finds out that Sherlock is still alive.
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Kind of my thinking...
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Yeah, and that way, the audience will grow to like Mary because she'll help get John and Sherlock back together.
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I can also imagine her being quite sassy...Lord, did I really just use that word?
Seems to be the one all the kids are using just now...
But yeah. she may be part of the solution, rather than part of the problem!
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Yeah, I imagine her as being a bit like Amy Pond. And John is obviously Rory. And I guess that would make Sherlock the Doctor. 
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
What a lovely image!
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Why not? After all it's the same guy who writes the two series. 
And I think the doctor an Sherlock do have quite a bit in common.
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theres a good interview with steven moffat about the doctor/sherlock, to the effect that the doctor is an angel wanting to be human, sherlock is human wanting to be god
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
beekeeper wrote:
theres a good interview with steven moffat about the doctor/sherlock, to the effect that the doctor is an angel wanting to be human, sherlock is human wanting to be god
Do you have the link to that interview?
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Is this not said on the DVD commentaries?
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I think we'll almost certainly get a quick recap of the Fall, thirty seconds perhaps...seeing as that's what they did in Scandal, but then...the pre-credit scene was the resolution of Great Game, and there's no way they could do a resolution scene for Reichenbach so quickly...
So now I'm starting to think the pre-credit scene won't have anything to do with the Fall at all....uhhh...I dunno, it's too tough to call.
At the moment my money's on the 'fall' and cemetery scene pre-credit and continues with John's POV part in flashback
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I was just told how John does react.. and I AM SO UPSET! I managefd to avoid so many spoilers, and now that I know I am like aaaaaaaarg! It is very fitting and yet I so very much enjoyed this fandom's anticipation and theories. I sincerley hope I wil not learn any more spoilers.
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I was just told how John does react.. and I AM SO UPSET! I managefd to avoid so many spoilers, and now that I know I am like aaaaaaaarg! It is very fitting and yet I so very much enjoyed this fandom's anticipation and theories. I sincerley hope I wil not learn any more spoilers.
Let's wear our bages with pride! The fandom that knows how to wait!
Bugger! Sorry you found out like that! Who told you? No spoilers!! If it's available online we'll have to be much more careful!
I'm pretty much on a total Sherlock black out. Only this website so hopefully there aren't any spoil-sports here that are going to ruin it for people.
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I was dipleased with that spoiler too.
I mean like I've said before:
what it is, not that it was spoiled...I was asked if I wanted to know!
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I was dipleased with that spoiler too.
I still find my/our reaction interesting - for years, I was told plenty of movie spoilers and yet I was never this annoyed. Probably because we already waited so long. I am happy to wait that tiny bit longer!
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Again, I'm as clear as mud!
I DON'T MIND SPOILERS!
I mean there are just some things in the series I don't like, regardless...I'm not bothered how I get to see/hear about them!
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I was just told how John does react.. and I AM SO UPSET! I managefd to avoid so many spoilers, and now that I know I am like aaaaaaaarg! It is very fitting and yet I so very much enjoyed this fandom's anticipation and theories. I sincerley hope I wil not learn any more spoilers. Let's wear our bages with pride! The fandom that knows how to wait!
Oh oh. Really? I was so hoping to be able to stay here on the forum until next fall, maybe even until Sherlock airs on BBC. But now.... I'm not sure. Because that is a major spoiler, just the kind of thing I'm hoping to avoid. Bugger.
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
I was just told how John does react.. and I AM SO UPSET! I managefd to avoid so many spoilers, and now that I know I am like aaaaaaaarg! It is very fitting and yet I so very much enjoyed this fandom's anticipation and theories. I sincerley hope I wil not learn any more spoilers.
Let's wear our bages with pride! The fandom that knows how to wait!
I think I know what you mean 
, because I was unfortunately also online on the first setlock day, the shooting in Bristol. But how do you really know that this was his reaction on Sherlock being still alive? I mean theoretically it could be the reaction on something else, or? Or are you talking about anything else, another source, which I luckily don´t know? I don´t want to hear that, of course, then....
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Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?
Anja,
that is exactly what I did. At first I was curious to know and watched everything I could find. But after I came across the first day of filming and some pictures I decided that I better bury my head in the sand. Because we won't be able to figure out the plot. Not that I want to. We haven't been able to come to a conclusion about TRF either, haven't we?
When I can't avoid seeing a picture from the set I start to go into fan-mode and try to adjust my theories of the plot to everything new I see. And I can't stand that.
So I try to deceive myself that Mary can be Harry or John's you-know-what is not what it is. Speculation is alright on the basis of series 1 and 2. But I don't want to really know anything.
To answer the question about John's reaction: As a man with strong moral principles he will give Sherlock time to explain everything. And depending on Sherlock's answer he will react accordingly.
We know that Sherlock often keeps things form John/us. So maybe John gets to know about how he did survive. For John that is not enough. John will want to know why Sherlock did it. Sherlock won't tell John everything about what exactly happend on the roof. Maybe just something like: "I talked to him and he killed himself."
If the writers stick to canon and use the reason Watson is given in "The Empty House": Sherlock predicted that John could involuntarily give Sherlock away. Then there might be some punching or running away.
