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January 12, 2013 11:08 am  #241


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Whatever happens, hearts will be broken; whether it's the characters' or the fans' remains to be seen.


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January 12, 2013 11:14 am  #242


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Mary Me wrote:

Hera wrote:

Oh, and I really don't want it to be three years before Sherlock coming back. That's just way too long!

Ja. That's really way too long. 
They knew each other since one and half years, I guess.
So they should not be separated beyond this time.

Agreed.
I really hope they change the time span (preferably less than a year)... also, it would be hard to explain, why he had to be gone for such a long time.

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January 12, 2013 11:27 am  #243


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Depends what he's been doing!
AND we may need that time period for John to meet somebody, get married and have kids...just saying!


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January 12, 2013 11:32 am  #244


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

I've said this before.
Remember we are 'adapting' canon Holmes into a modern day version.
Back in the canon days, it took a longer time to do all that Homes needed to do; whether it be because of travel times or evidence gathering etc etc.
Those things have 'sped up' remarkably in recent decades.

That said, time is easily 'surpassed' by way of a few lines of text on a screen these days; I daresay we will see a few cases that John tries to help with (as per the canon) but swiftly we shall see an answer (to the 'return of Sherlock) and move onto a new case for the next episode.
I'm actually hoping people won't be dissappointed with the swiftness of the 'conclusion' to the last; Moftiss won't dwell on the answer for too long. They have said as much.
So again we will probably be left with 'but what about the ??????' because all the theories have brought many things into play that obviously have nothing to do with the solution. BUT I am sensing that some won't let those theories go & will feel duped because their ideas are not addressed.


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January 12, 2013 11:35 am  #245


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

besleybean wrote:

Depends what he's been doing!
AND we may need that time period for John to meet somebody, get married and have kids...just saying!

Who on earth would want that? *wink*


kazza474 wrote:

 
I've said this before.
Remember we are 'adapting' canon Holmes into a modern day version.
Back in teh canon days, it took a longer time o do all that Homes needed to do; whether it be because of travel times or evidence gathering etc etc.
Those things have 'sped up' remarkably in recent decades.

Agreed. That's what I meant that it would be hard to explain why he had to be away for so long. It just doesn't seem likely to me... They would have to make a lot of things up, so it would be more canon to just change the time span, I guess.

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January 12, 2013 11:39 am  #246


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Oh if they had to; they could think up an explanation for a 3 year absence, I just don't think they need to do so however.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

January 12, 2013 11:41 am  #247


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

I hope you are right!  Well, we will see... eventually.

 

January 12, 2013 11:44 am  #248


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Oh I have no doubt that Sherlock will be up & at 'em in the next series; it will just be the storyline that may possibly say ' he's been away 3 years - look he's grown a beard & John has lost his tan' lol.
But I think that explanation would suck.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

January 12, 2013 12:40 pm  #249


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

See I didn't know whether the viewer would be shown 2 separate but parallel stories of Sherlock and John during the Hiatus...then them coming together towards the end of ep 7.


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January 12, 2013 1:07 pm  #250


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

besleybean wrote:

See I didn't know whether the viewer would be shown 2 separate but parallel stories of Sherlock and John during the Hiatus...then them coming together towards the end of ep 7.

I'll try 7 find that .. tomorrow been a long day here.

But yes they basically said you'd get the answer & we'd mov on to the next case; bloody boring having 90 minutes of nothing but explanation otherwise.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

January 12, 2013 1:13 pm  #251


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Oh sorry, we're kinda talking 2 different things here.
These are my thoughts:
I think the resolution of Sherlock's death will be shown to us, before the opening titles.
I then wondreed if the rest of the episode would basically be :
1.  Sherlock solving the Moriarty/Moran/Sniper thing
2. At the same time:  John doing whatever he does...
3.  The 2 are somehow then brought together...I'm thinking possibly if John needs saving, but maybe Sherlock just showing up and being smart.


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January 14, 2013 4:39 pm  #252


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

*off topic content removed*
I hope that they just keep the friendship as it is. There is a great dynamic to it, which is the main reason for me loving the show so much. I hope, that they make Sherlock a little bit more human over the next episodes, but - of course - not too much. I hope, that John remains a bachelor.  I would hate it if he were to move out of the flat.  Well, we will see! I have faith in BBC and Moftiss. I will like what they do, whatever it is.

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January 14, 2013 5:50 pm  #253


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

*off topic part removed*  I think John may marry.

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January 14, 2013 10:07 pm  #254


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Ok then. Steven knows. But does Marc know that Steven knows?


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January 15, 2013 8:49 am  #255


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Let us discuss in this thread what we think will happen on the basis of what has happened so far in the two series of Sherlock and the characters that have so far been developed and how they are LIKELY to develop in future. I say how they are likely to develop advisedly, not how would like or wish them to be developed, but how the writers are likely  to develop them. If you wish to discuss developments of a sexual nature, which are in reality highly unlikely in this modern adaptation of the Sherlock Holmes stories, then make a separate thread but please mark it as adult content. Perhaps, as on other forums, we may need a block/protection on  that sort of thread and make it adult only content?

Personally, I find the constant steering of topics onto the same old bandwagon both repetitive and, as Sherlock would say, 'Boring'. I will add that I do not make any of these comments as a personal attack on anyone. 


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January 15, 2013 3:13 pm  #256


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Theory 1: I always imagined that Sherlock would show up out of the blue, without tact or preparing John for the emotional shock. That is why I think that John might indeed faint.
Theory 2: I also like the idea (I've read it here somewhere) that Sherlock might knock him out by accident, and that's how they meet again for the first time after Reichenbach. Then John could wake up to see the hazy outlines of Sherlock's face, and wonder if he's dead, too Then of course Sherlock would have to explain everything.
Theory 3: John might freak out at first, blaming Sherlock for not telling him everything. I imagine him storming out of the door (after he may or may not have punched Sherlock in the face), Sherlock staying behind (not knowing what to do - because he is Sherlock and he doesn't know how to handle these things). Then the door would open again en John would come back in, hug Sherlock briefly without saying anything, and leave once again (because a part of him is still angry).  
Hugging may not fit Sherlock's character, but he doesn't have to hug back. I think John is perfectly capable of needing to hug his best friend - who has returned from the dead.

It will probably happen in a completely different way, but that's how I picture it at this moment


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January 15, 2013 3:38 pm  #257


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Hera wrote:

*off topic content removed*
I hope that they just keep the friendship as it is. There is a great dynamic to it, which is the main reason for me loving the show so much. I hope, that they make Sherlock a little bit more human over the next episodes, but - of course - not too much. I hope, that John remains a bachelor.  I would hate it if he were to move out of the flat.  Well, we will see! I have faith in BBC and Moftiss. I will like what they do, whatever it is.

You're right. Thanks for calming me down. 

I wonder what will be the reason for Sherlock to return. I expect that he is trying to crush Moriarty's network down. And I believe this will be the main issue for season 3.
 


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January 15, 2013 4:38 pm  #258


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Not sure about the fainting thing. Fainting doesn't strike me as something a male physician-surgeon combat war veteran would have happen to him. Just my take on that.

When the time comes (dear god, if it ever comes, lol) for us to finally see the TRF resolution at the beginning of episode 3.1, I think we might end up being amazed about how little time the writers spend on that resolution, and how simple everything will be made to seem. We might just end up wondering what all the hanging-by-our-fingernails was all about during all the months and months of waiting.

 

January 15, 2013 4:41 pm  #259


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

You may be right there. But how would we have survived the hiatus without all that speculating and nail-biting? 


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January 15, 2013 4:41 pm  #260


Re: How will John react when he finds out Sherlock isn't dead?

Mary Me wrote:

I wonder what will be the reason for Sherlock to return. I expect that he is trying to crush Moriarty's network down. And I believe this will be the main issue for season 3. 

Do you think so? I always assumed Sherlock would only resurface when it was safe for him, John, Mrs. Hudson and Lestrade to do so. If Moriarty is still alive and/or if his criminal network is still up and running and gunning for Sherlock and his friends and coworkers, surely Sherlock would know that and not put them in danger again. After all, that's why he took the fall in the first place, to get Moriarty's henchmen to back off.

John of course will be shocked to see Sherlock again. But part of me hopes he does something like clap Sherlock on the back and tell him, "You know, I knew it all along. You had us all fooled, but I suspected."  Something good-natured, you know how John is. 'Course, then he could deck him, if he wants.  heh
 

 

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