besleybean wrote:

He marries the female love of his life.

There are many gay or bisexual men who marry women for diverse reasons, so that is for me not the ultimative proof. 

besleybean wrote:

He marries the female love of his life.

 
He marries a female. With the love of his life as best man.

SusiGo wrote:

Mattlocked wrote:

besleybean wrote:

He marries the female love of his life.

 
He marries a female. With the love of his life as best man.

This. 

That's it.
John never says (and I know some things don't have to be put into words, but in this case, well...) that Mary is the love of his life. He says that she's the best thing that could have happened to him. Let's not forget, he most certainly has been in a huge crisis after Sherlock's 'death'. He certainly needed someone to help him through those traumatic times. I'm not convinced you always find the love of your life in such moments. She obviously was there for him and helped him get better again. But 'love of his life'...?

It's OT, but let me tell you about The Doctor and Rose in "Doctor Who" just briefly. Now that is a relationship that evolves from a friendship into something that made me feeling all warm and fevered. They never talk about until the very end, they never tell each other that... you know... but you feel it...! And wow, how you feel it! There is so much going on between them, it's unbelievable.
And yes, the difference to "Sherlock" is that DW is about The Doctor and Rose, whereas "Sherlock" is not about John and Mary. But if you want the audience to believe that it's love - and maybe even the love of their lives - then it doesn't really take all that much. For some reason I don't see and, more importantly, I don't feel it with John and Mary. 
 

There's nothing to counsel, because the marriage won't last anyway. 
Apart from that, I'm not counseling, I'm merely stating what I see and feel - or don't feel.

Though of course it matters what actually happens, rather than what we feel.
Presumably Mary will shuffle off this mortal coil, one way or another.
Whether John then leaps into Sherlock's bed...well,  we'll soon know.

Last edited by besleybean (July 29, 2014 10:11 am)

besleybean wrote:

Though of course it matters what actually happens, rather than what we feel.
Presumably Mary will shuffle off this mortal coil, one way or another.
Whether John then leaps into Sherlock's bed...well,  we'll soon know.

Fine. If you think love is just about jumping in each other's bed ...

Don't we talk about a wider range of showng love?

Last edited by gently69 (July 29, 2014 10:23 am)

I thought so. I thought of living and working together, sharing everything, helping and supporting each other, having fun - which leaves no space for anyone else but them. Therefore I hope and wish for a relationship which comprises everything one associates with love in spiritiual, emotional and physical sense. 

Last edited by SusiGo (July 29, 2014 10:22 am)

Because I read something about Sherlock in John's bed and vice versa ... a lot in this thread.
I wouldn't be a Johnlocker if this is the only aspect.

Last edited by gently69 (July 29, 2014 12:54 pm)

Gently: It is not. And the thing is - can they really return to what they were before: a celibate Sherlock married to his work and John unsuccessfully dating a string of women? I think not. We had this and we had a married John and an unhappy Sherlock. So now there has to come something new. 

Besleybean: This is about what can happen, not what has happened so far. Of course they do not share a room but this does not mean that they could not do so in the future. The same goes for the kissing, snogging, whatever you want. 

Last edited by SusiGo (July 29, 2014 10:30 am)