besleybean wrote:

I wasn't aware there was a set way to look at one's sibling or one's partner...I doubt I fit into either category!

Well, one usually doesn't look at one's sibling like one wants to shag them into the floor.
But that's just my interpretation.  

Isn't Sam and Frodo a well-known bromance? Not much eye-sex, but much more openly caring for each other (more phsycal touching and openly telling each other how important they are to each other). 

Then again, Hobbits are probably less emotionally repressed than English men. ;)

I know, I'm being generalizing. 

Then again, I have J.K.Rowling on my side - according to her, English male friends don't hug unless lives are at stake. ;) (She was arguing against the director who wanted Harry and Ron to hug ;) ).

besleybean wrote:

Again, I have never seen any of that in BBC Sherlock, well at least not between Sherlock and John.

Again, I have.

tonnaree wrote:

besleybean wrote:

I wasn't aware there was a set way to look at one's sibling or one's partner...I doubt I fit into either category!

Well, one usually doesn't look at one's sibling like one wants to shag them into the floor.
But that's just my interpretation.  

In my new fic, I will include a scene where Sherlock shags John into the floor just for you dear! <3

But it's about the drugs and Sherlock is really trying to get the message over about this...and it's S1..well fek happened after that.
Oh apart from John getting married to a woman and wanting an affair with a woman, apart from the numerous other girlfriends, of course.
Oh sorry, he hugged Sherlock and Sherlock hugged him. Forgot about those.
Why on Earth would anybody concentrate on alleged 'eye sex', when there is plenty of real sex going on- with John and women at least and allegedly with Sherlock and Irene.

Vhanja wrote:

I do agree that the scene probably wasn't meant to portray anything more than what you yourself mention - Sherlock trying really hard to get John to shut up. 

However, whatever the intention of the writer, the director and the actors, I still find that scene so intense that it's bordering on feeling as if I'm watching something private. I am open, though, to that being more something I pour into into the scene from my own wishfull thinking than something that was meant to be there.

It is a very intense scene. I love it.

BTW I love that this thread is alive again. I missed it.

Last edited by Schmiezi (May 1, 2017 8:07 pm)

Yeah, love to be able to discuss this again. :D

Besley, yeah, I do think that the scene is intense, though, due to what Sherlock is trying so hard to wordlessly communicate. And so if we already see Johnlock, it's easy to add more reasons behind that intensity than what was perhaps the intention.

I'm delighted to see the thread revived too!

Yes, the scene looks intense because it's intense - Sherlock is intently trying to get a point across! 

And I'm shocked that J K Rowling hasn't seen men hugging!  Has she never been around drunks?    But I'm more than happy to take her word for it that Harry and Ron didn't - they're her characters!  I suppose it depends on the culture, the individuals, and the level of intoxication. 

Last edited by Liberty (May 1, 2017 9:09 pm)

besleybean wrote:

A loving friendship, nothing sexual.
This is what I see with Sherlock and John and to me what has been expressed by both the actors and creators
And quite honestly, they should know.

First of all, why reducing Johnlock to sex? Not that I mind imagine them having lots of it in the future but in the state of slow burning romance I don't expect to see more than longing. And frankly, I can see longing in more than one scene.

Second, a creative product is more than its creator's intention. I know we have had that discussion before but that point is fail important to me. In literature, you don't just rely on what the author says about his work. Just look at Kafka!