SusiGo wrote:

Mothonthemantel wrote:

No. Sherlock is the first person I have ever seen dribble WHITE vomit.
Then they twirled him around , shrunk him down and popped him into Johns mouth for a scene change.

After placing him in on a carpet with his bum in the air. 
 

Cheers, mate.
And for the second time, actually (we mustn't forget the same beautiful view in the pilot).

Mothonthemantel wrote:

They call it subliminally suggestive in advertising. 

Yep.
I tell you guys, the consistency with which such things are shown makes one really wonder about the mastermind behind it all. Seeing how directors change every ep, you know.

Bear in mind that I know nothing about cinematography, but ... here's an alternative view!  I don't know why the rainbows are there, but I do know that rainbows are a natural phenomenon - light breaks up into those particular colours.  It's something you can see outside in the sky.   It's possible that certain filming will cause the same phenomenon, and the cinematographers just like it, in the way they like lens flare (another thing I know nothing about).  It's an attractive effect.   They can't change the colours (and why would they want to?) because those just happen to be the colours you get with light refraction like that.   The natural rainbow came first, and the rainbow flag came later.  But the rainbow flag doesn't mean that all rainbows mean gay.

I also don't find the rainbow effects are that noticeable or intrusive.  It doesn't feel all rainbowy.  I didn't even notice at all until it was pointed out.

(And I know it's an old argument, so putting it in brackets, but in this day and age, hopefully it's OK to show gay characters openly, rather than through code).
 

Actually...I have been going to say something, but held back.
But seeing as you've raised the subject- I will bite.
Our Sherlock speaks massively to the asexual community.
For my own part, I have long been aware that I am just not as sexually motivated as the vast majority of the population.
Some of the discussion on here frankly makes me feel quite uncomfortable.  But I don't thinkl I can complain about it, because of the nature of the thread.
But basically it does boil to things I've said before:  I find it sad if  it seems people can only appreciate love in a relationship sense.  What the heck actually is at all wrong with bromance?  I love it and it is NOT something inferior.
Our two guys love each as the very best of friends.

Last edited by besleybean (January 20, 2017 7:26 pm)

Oh please we are at that point for the nth time.

Well I had not got around to watching Sherlock post S01 and randomly a colleague at work mentioned it was fabulous and they seemed to be gay. I have always like Holmes and Watson but I was quite surprised. So of course I went home and watched all 3 episodes in one night. To my surprise they were mentioning potential gayness several times per episode , at breakfast dinner and tea!
This continued along with the love theme right up until now. 
As for the writers , most of the people I know who watch would be hard pressed to repeat a single comment they have ever said regarding the show ( apart from perhaps when series are starting or filming ). Same goes for the crowd I watched T6T with in the pub.
That is why what is in the actual show is what matters, People may watch this in five years or ten years time and Moff and Gatt will be just names on the screen - so it has to stand on in merits and content alone.

Maybe all the people who hoped for an on-screen romantic relationship should have read this 2010 Buzzfeed interview with Mark where he states: 

"And equally, I find flirting with the homoeroticism in Sherlock much more interesting."

He may find it funny but to many people this meant a lot. People who do not have his standing and influence and hoped for representation in a big show. I do not belong in this group but it still makes me sad and a little angry. 

Oh I don't think either of the actors have a problem with homoeroticism.
The team just decided they weren't going to go that root...other than play with the idea of two hot guys sharing a flat.

Yes, they obviously changed it for a reason.
Though from memory, if anything, I would say that maybe just Sherlock could seem more possibly being gay.
I don't remember John being any different than he is now.

Exactly. We didn't go looking for the homoeroticism they kept bashing us over the head with it.
Then they showed John in an unhappy and unsatisfying marriage and now we have them raising a baby.

I think some fans need to take the show a tad less seriously. I really mean that. It is not the end of the world, neither the gay one or the Sherlock one, that Johnlock didn't happen on screen. 

I've seen some fans who wanted to egg the houses of Moffat and Gatiss.

I've seen quite a few fans who are desperatly looking for clues for a "hidden episode" to be aired this Sunday, because they can't come to terms with what we have.

I've even seen some fans who think that Ben and Martin tried their best to put Johnlock into their scenes, because they were "limited by the writers".

I just think it's sad when a show becomes this big in someone's life and they lose all sense of proportions and perspective.