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July 27, 2013 10:17 am  #81


Re: Parade's End - film and novel

Just saw it yesterday. 5:30 hours in a row. Ugh! But it was worth it. I couldn´t stop. First I was a bit confused - i missed Benedicts Cheekbones :-)
But it´s getting better and better. I loved the story and his feelings. What an actor. In every role he is so .....lost words......incredible and REAL.
But I also think that Rebecca Hall would have deserved an nomination. Most of the time I wished that Christopher would choose her again :-)


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July 27, 2013 11:40 am  #82


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See ya later!


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July 27, 2013 3:07 pm  #83


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sj4iy wrote:

As much as I liked him in this, I think Rebecca Hall deserved the nomination more.

I think they both would have deserved it. I think it's one of his best performances although it may be less spectacular than Sherlock or Khan. There are so many small gestures, the whole physical presence, the way he communicates his feelings not in words but in looks and facial expressions. 


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July 28, 2013 1:34 pm  #84


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Also, I think it really shows how much he feels compatible to Tietjens and he plays him definitely "con amore"

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July 28, 2013 5:28 pm  #85


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I did some screenshots for my tumblr blog. I especially loved these as they are a wonderful example for Susanna White's excellent work:






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July 28, 2013 5:31 pm  #86


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Beautiful.


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July 29, 2013 8:02 am  #87


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I bought the DVD yesterday and I love it. I hadn't watched it before when it was on tv. He should get the Emmy for his pperformance. I want to read the books next but I still need  to finish reading all ACD Sherlock stories first x


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July 30, 2013 5:17 pm  #88


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The mirror thing in the movie is very cleverly done. It is a leitmotive of the movie, in a way, starting with opening titles and subtle reminder of FMF fragmentation of narrative flow.

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October 21, 2013 8:53 am  #89


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Well observed, Susi.  
I rewatched Parade's End lately and my view has changed a bit.
I think I’m happy with how it ended, but I still feel so immensely sad for Sylvia because her figure is actually incredibly tragic. On the one hand, she did bring it upon herself by being unfaithful but on the other hand, I think she really loved Christopher. She just didn’t realize it at all at the beginning of their marriage, was too immature to understand it and as a result made a terrible mistake. That's how I see it. Sylvia really wanted to understand her husband but she just couldn't get emotionally close to him. 
However, Parade's End has a happy ending, it turned out for the best for Christopher as he ended up being happy with Valentine so I won't complain. 
But I still have a bit of an unsettled feeling in my stomach, particularly since the tree was cut down. Why would Sylvia be so cruel. Disregarding all the events in the past that happened, I think this was the moment when she truly lost him although she needed him the most. And that makes her a real tragic character. Rebecca Hall did also a great job in portraying her.
 


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October 21, 2013 9:03 am  #90


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I understand how you feel about her, Mary. This is entirely due to Rebecca Hall's excellent acting and some changes Tom Stoppard made in his script. In the novels she is a terrible woman who never really loved Christopher. This is one of my favourite quotes:

"The two functions of man. If you wanted something killed you'd go to Sylvia Tietjens in sure faith that she would kill it: emotion, hope, ideal; kill it quick and sure. If you wanted something kept alive you'd go to Valentine: she's find something to do for it. . . . The two types of mind: remorseless enemy, sure screen, dagger ... sheath!"
 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

October 21, 2013 3:01 pm  #91


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I think you can guess that even film's Rebecca, although less obviously "evil" than her literarary alter ego, would never be happy with Tietjens nor give him any happiness. The very moment he would fell for her again, she would stop to admire him and would begin to torment him again. A kind of vicious circle. She wants him and she is obsessed with him, because he is the only man who is able to resist her. Let's don't forget that in France, while she was doing her ah-so-sincere-and-moving-speech and he believed her for a moment, she knew all the time that Perowne was just about to come to her room. It was yet another cruel joke and she orchestrated it only to humiliate him once more (although she was so convincing that even I was fooled when I was first watching the episode). 

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March 13, 2014 5:27 pm  #92


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I had ordered the Blu-ray the other day, and I picked it up from the Packstation just now. And whaddayaknow, there was a nice surprise waiting for me inside, because apparently the version I ordered came with postcards. They're not super great, but five of the six feature Benedict, so who am I to complain?





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March 13, 2014 5:43 pm  #93


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Cool postcards!

I have Parade's End now.  Just have to find the time to watch it.  Maybe I'll binge it on my next kidless weekend. 


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March 13, 2014 7:44 pm  #94


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The DVD box I ordered also had those postcards, so I guess it's not that unusual.


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March 13, 2014 8:19 pm  #95


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Girls, this is entirely for "film and novel" (see thread start), film discussion is here   

http://sherlock.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=324&p=1

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March 13, 2014 8:21 pm  #96


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Oh, FFS. I'm posting about the film. I don't see how that doesn't belong in this thread.


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March 13, 2014 8:25 pm  #97


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Then you might like to have a look at start #1 here:

"Ok, so I know there is already a Parad'es End topic here... but since it is a general one, I thought it would be nice to have another one, dedicated specifically to a discussion and analysis of the series and the novels: I found both so stimulating and I would really love to share a further discussion with you."


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March 13, 2014 8:30 pm  #98


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Keep the postcards coming, TeeJay! 


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March 13, 2014 8:30 pm  #99


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Well, forgive me for not reading the entirety of every thread I post in. At least I bothered to see if we already had a thread related to the movie rather than opening the third or fourth one. If the mods have a problem with this, they're free to move my post(s) or PM me to move it. Otherwise I'd like to ask you to please exercise a bit of leniency on all these unwritten rules. I'll try to pay more attention next time.


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March 13, 2014 8:33 pm  #100


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kittykat wrote:

Keep the postcards coming, TeeJay! 

Sadly enough, there are only five. So that's it for postcards in this thread, I'd say.
 


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