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For non-native English speakers
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- Davina
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The link or pic thingy isn't showing up properly for me. 
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- SusiGo
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Please, try it again, Jane, I'd love to see it. 
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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- Harriet
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Yea, what appears to be a link probably is just an image of the link....
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... but there may be some new players now. It’s okay. The East Wind takes us all in the end.
- kazza474
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Also, please note that sentences can also end in full stops. The exclamation mark can be overused.
Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08
Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
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- Harriet
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Hooray, more opportunities for blunders! 
Eventually everyone will support Johnlock. Independent OSAJ Affiliate
... but there may be some new players now. It’s okay. The East Wind takes us all in the end.
- SusiGo
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Oh, that's really frustrating . How about some phonetics to go with it so we don't have to guess? 
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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- Davina
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Tricky...very tricky! It bow/bow all over again!
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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
- JaneCo
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Sorry everyone 
. Thought I had posted correctly and then had to dash off to deliver daughter somewhere for 12.00 *rolls eyes* so I've only just discovered the error. Thanks to Kazza for knowing what to do in an emergency.
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Thread Starter- kazza474
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S'ok, easily fixed.
All part of the service.
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Also, please note that sentences can also end in full stops. The exclamation mark can be overused.
Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08
Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
- Lestrade
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This reminds me a lot of a poem we once discussed at university:
Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
It goes on and on and on...
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!
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- Mattlocked
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The complete one is to find here:
Just showed it to hubby and he immediately started reading out loud the whole thing. (I think he wanted to show off ). Well, he managed quite a lot. 
And I wonder why it is Suzy but buzy and daughter but laughter and some but home and and and.... Are there one million rules?
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"After all this time?" "Always."
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- JaneCo
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The only rule seems to be that there isn't one. I must be brighter than I thought, I picked it all up as a baby
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Thread Starter- SusiGo
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Mattlocked, how about a little revenge? Shall we tell them about the three grammatical genders in German?
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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes
"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)
“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)
- Mattlocked
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Wait - I have to look up the word "gender". LOL
Edit: Ah okay, it means the same in the grammatical context as it does usually...
Well... we could make a kind of quiz!?!
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"After all this time?" "Always."
Good bye, Lord Rickman of the Alan
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Mattlocked wrote:
And I wonder why it is Suzy but buzy and daughter but laughter and some but home and and and.... Are there one million rules?
In a nutshell: different etymologies. English, while being a Germanic language in origin, has assimilated and adapted words from all kinds of languages. /end smart-alec mode
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"Smart is the new sexy."
I disagree. To me, smart has *always* been sexy.
- The Doctor
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In a nutshell: different etymologies. English, while being a Germanic language in origin, has assimilated and adapted words from all kinds of languages. /end smart-alec mode
So has German.. Portemonnaie comes to mind (French for money purse).. I am citing a thesis here:
"Die Fremdwörter machen heute einen gehörigen Teil des deutschen Wortschatzes aus. Es sind vor allem lateinische und englische Ausdrücke. Der Anteil der Fremdwörter ist etwa 25 %, wobei viele dieser Wörter, besonders aus dem Griechischen und Lateinischen, nicht mehr als "fremd" aufgefasst werden. Es gibt ungefähr 10 % wirklich "fremd" Wörter im Deutschen. Die Substantive stehen an der Spitze, dann folgen die Adjektive und Verben.
Fremde Wörter gelangen aufgrund des Kontaktes zwischen mehreren Sprachgemeinschaften in eine andere Sprache oder aufgrund kultureller, wirtschaftlicher oder politischer Beziehungen (Handelsbeziehungen zwischen unterschiedlichen Sprachgemeinschaften bzw. Völkern). Das Verbreitungsgebiet einer Sprache ist kein abgeschlossener Raum, sondern es steht in Verbindung mit den angrenzenden anderen Sprachgruppen. Deutsch besitzt eine Reihe Wörter von Nachbarsprachen."
- Mattlocked
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And i'm sure Susi can translate this for the others.
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"After all this time?" "Always."
Good bye, Lord Rickman of the Alan
- The Doctor
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Summarising it states that the German language has assimilated many words from 'foreign' languages too, which nowadays account for up to 25% of the overall vocabulary (mainly Latin and English). Most of these words came from cultural, economic and political relationships with the 'donating' countries. Every language is influenced by external lingual communities and not isolated.
*vocabulary*
*lol*
Got that one?
- Davina
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A fair amount of Greek words too.
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Don't make people into heroes John. Heroes don't exist and if they did I wouldn't be one of them.
