I forgot to add, I'm surprised Sherlock has an English accent. I thought he'd put on an American accent for an American show.

Sam wrote:

I forgot to add, I'm surprised Sherlock has an English accent. I thought he'd put on an American accent for an American show.

I think I read in a description somewhere that he has burnt out in England, and moves to NYC to pull himself together -- or something like that. And that's why he needs Watson as a counselor. I could have it wrong.

Anyway, I don't picture Sherlock or Sherlock Holmes doing that, do you?

Davina wrote:

Burnt out and been an addict in England. His  father appoints Watson to be his 'minder' to help keep him on the straight and narrow.

His father?!

Oh. Ugh. Another point against it. They could have made it Mycroft, at least.

Well, let's see what we all think after the premiere.

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Article in today's New York Times that starts off discussing Elementary and then gets into other versions of the detective, with a nice mention of Benedict and Sherlock:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/arts/television/jonny-lee-miller-as-sherlock-holmes-in-elementary.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=all

Emy,  great that you have such an open mind,   and thanks to Sherli and Davina for that New York Times article link, comparing the
various versions of Sherlock over the years.

I'm too curious not to watch the pilot episode of Elementary when it airs later this week…   I will cringe appropriately, but will give it a try.
Not as a replacement Sherlock,  but as a curiosity.   As was pointed out earlier,  if this thing catches on,  it
will unfortunately be the main/only version many American viewers will ever see.   Why?  The PBS network (U.S. home of BBC Sherlock)
is no $$ match for CBS/big budget mainstream machine.. sigh.    Will there be a bit of good in it?    Hmmm.   I want to see.

I was watching David Letterman (on CBS) this evening-  a promo about J.L.Miller to be interviewed tomorrow on the
show--..  that,   followed by a very flashy Elementary trailer.   <gulp> <eye-rolling>:

NEW   HOLMES  !

NEW   WATSON  !

NEW  YORK !

I found this picture :

And here's the New York Times' review of Elementary:

http://tv.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/arts/television/elementary-starring-jonny-lee-miller-and-lucy-liu.html?ref=todayspaper

It was real interesting to read the reviewer's comments about Benedict and Sherlock.

I hope I'll be able to watch the show online after it's broadcast, as I won't be able to watch it tonight on CBS.  I'd like to see the whole hour for myself, just to say I've seen both versions.  I'm not expecting it to be anywhere near Sherlock in terms of quality, though!

yeah  I've just seen the 1st 10 minutes  of it.   He's got to get rid of the scarf!!   That's too much like the BBC.   get rid of the scarf!!   I'll watch the rest later. I'm recording it.    He sure does speak a mile a minute tho.  fast.   You're right,  no chemistry.   Not liking his tattoos.  those are real by the way,  yeah I know.

SPOILER WARNING!!

I thought it was okay. I went into watching it expecting n-o-t-h-i-n-g, after all, so....  it was okay.

Miller is not attractive. While BC is skinny in a lean, healthy way, this guy looks anorexic and hung over. Supposedly he's sober in the story, but he looks like he's been on a bender for the last month or so. Not. Attractive.

They really played down Lucy Liu's looks, too-- she's a gorgeous woman, but they hardly put make up on her (freckles? LL has freckles?) and she looked like an unmade bed a lot. But certainly no worse than him, who looks like a crack addict's bed, lol.

Shallow, shallow me, to talk about their looks. So sue me.

They dumbed down his British accent, which I found bizarre to the max. He threw in one or two Britishisms, in a half-hearted attempt to remind us that he's supposed to be British, but it was pretty bad.

Plot was okay. I was mildly interested about whodunnit.

Only good NY view was the nighttime skyline vista from his 5 million dollar Manhattan (Brooklyn?) pied a terre-- good grief, who is his father supposed to be, Donald Trump? The rest of it was filmed in some little neighborhood (all the exteriors looked like they were filmed in the same two square blocks), or at night, stuff like parking lots. Nothing interesting there. If you want to see NY scenes, watch Blue Bloods or the old Law&Order shows. Or Celebrity Apprentice, for that matter, lol.

Final scene, them walking out of the apt building with that song playing in the background, something about a girl, blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah. They made John into Joan *expressly* for sexual chemistry, whether or not it's ever consummated. When TWIC protest that oh, no, no, John's not female for the sexual aspect, blah, blah, I want to laugh and point my finger at them in helpless disbelief-- who are they kidding? Of course that's why they made John female!

So anyway, I'll watch again next week. And we'll see where this goes.