nakahara wrote:

- Mycroft frequently phones Sherrinford, he is able to send Moriarty there without any problem, but when he wants to visit the facility with Sherlock and John, he needs to do this by hijacking a boat and sneaking in dressed as a sailor? Why?
 

Mycroft knows how well Euros can manipulate people and since there is evidence that she escaped, they don't know what the situation in Sherrinford might be. Openly announcing their visit might be a bad idea, if there is a mass breakout, people are trying to cover up a mistake or the facility is in Euros' control.
 

This Is The Phantom Lady wrote:

I think what I'm most dissapointed in is how the fandom has reacted since it's release. The negativity and hate on tumblr, and here too... 

People having to defend why they liked it... 

all this after the mass sharing of spoilers etc. 

I'm sorry. I know it's okay to state your honest opinion; and I don't want to live in a world where you are forced to be positive about anything and can't say what you want. 

But really... it's depressing to me.

I completely agree. I find the reaction of some of the "fans" truly terrible. It's fine you did not like the episode/series but that does not give you the right to shout abuse at the creators or people who liked it. Be sad, be angry, be disappointed, that's alright. But what about being grateful to the people who made this show possible in the first place?
If I started writing nasty messages to every author or director who ever killed a character I liked, wrote something I didn't like or moved the plot in a direction different from what I would have wanted, I would be quite busy.

I liked TFP. We got a swordbrella! We got Holmes family flashbacks! I loved the interaction between Sherlock, John and Mycroft and Sherlock being genuinely kind to his brother instead of bickering. I loved the scene where he told Greg to look after his brother, it reminded me of TAB and Mycroft telling John the same.
I even liked the Sherrinford setting and found Euros was a chilling villain. The "we never had a dog"-twist really got me. I actually felt sick for a moment.

meowraahsan wrote:

We all knew that Mycroft wasn't a virgin. He's also clearly comfortable with his sexuality and knows how to separate sex from love, unlike Sherlock - the virgin. Even though he has borderline superhuman intelligence, like any other man he also has temptations.

My only problem with the Lady Smallwood and Mycroft pairing is that I was expecting him to go for a woman his age or younger. No offence, but isn't Lady Smallwood a bit too old for him? 16 years his senior... yikes.
In my head-canon, it'll always be Rosamund Pike playing Mycroft's lover. #otp

If their genders were reversed nobody would mind the 16 years...

I would expect Mycroft to be attracted by intelligence rather than looks (if he is attracted by anything). And in that respect Lady Smallwood fits very well.
I just wouldn't like it if they pursued the romance angle... it took so long for Sherlock to come to terms with his emotions and now Mycrofts suddenly gets hit on and reconsiders the whole "Caring is not an advantage"-thing in a matter of seconds?
 

Punch me in the face wrote:

​I have only seen the episode once. Does anyone remember if Mycroft looked concerned while tracking Sherlock and watching him on CCTV camera? Because we couldn't tell if Sherlock was with someone or not, and maybe Mycroft was worried if he saw Sherlock talking to an invisible person? Oh well...

Doesn't Mycroft always look concerned when he is looking at Sherlock? That is.. when he is not looking exasperated.

I believe we might see the memory inhibitor stuff again. When it was introduced in the beginning of TLD I expected it to be used on Sherlock (or John) at some point or play some larger role...
But maybe it was used and something happened in T6T or TLD (or even before that, we don't know for sure how long that stuff exists), that we haven't seen yet because the character does not remember it? What if it was Sherlock and while trying to retrieve that memory he also retrieves the memory of Eurus?

I find it interesting how it is always Sherlock John looses control with (Billy excluded) and always in a situation where Sherlock (or Billy) is not able or willing to fight back.

Do we see John physically attack Magnussen, the man who placed him in a bonfire, threatens his wife and taunts him? No.
Do we see him attack Mary, when he finds out she shot his friend and lied to him all the time?
Do we see him attack Vivian Norwood, the woman who shot his wife?
Do we see him attack Culverton in the end, the man who tried to kill his friend?
Moriarty?
Mycroft in TRF, when John believed he was responsible for giving Moriarty information to destroy Sherlock?
 

I don't like it either. They spent all that time establishing Mycroft as the "Caring is not an advantage"/ "Iceman" counterpart to Sherlock exploring his emotions. And when finally Sherlock has something Mycroft is not capable of/ does not want... Mycroft gets it, too, just because a colleague hit on him. Because that is all it takes to make him contemplate romance.

I like Lady Smallwood. But why can't there be a strong female character that is not paired of or in love with one of male protagonists?

It feels forced to me. We are nearing the end of the series and Greg gets his forensic officer, Sherlock (kind of) gets Irene, John had Mary and has Rosie... now only Molly needs a boyfriend and everyone is paired off in a nice heterosexual relationship. Happy ever after -.-

Oakwood375 wrote:

When is the East Wind mentioned in previous episodes? Any quotes? I wonder how much Mycroft knows...

I honestly want Sherrinford to be a code name for somebody, not another sibling. (2 secret siblings in 2 episodes? Seems a bit much to me.) I don't think that Sherrinford is Eurus. Why would Mycroft be in contact with his evil sister? (Unless for government purposes?)

I'm just curious what her agenda is. She's working (with/for) CS, why else would she have shown up as Faith or gotten the note? (Were all Sherlock's deductions about the note/real Faith true then?) But then there was that "Miss me?" line too, right? I wonder how she connects to Moriarty...

I also wouldn't like another sibling... I honestly expected the secret sibling to be someone we already know or have heard of (or at least somebody we have seen in Sherlocks Mind Palace). Introducing a completely new crucial character that late is difficult... introducing two completely new crucial characters that late is even worse. We only have one episode left .
Maybe Sherrinford is the institution where Euros (still not a girl's name...) was kept all that time or some person associated with it. But in that case I wonder why Mycroft never heard she was on the loose... maybe she managed to trick him into believing she was still there the same way she changed the security footage of her as the "Lady in red" and Sherlock?

By now I also think her name is not actually Euros but Elizabeth and Lady Smallwoods first name was changed from Elizabeth to Alicia to avoid confusion... Euros could be a nickname/alias/codeword or whatever...
 

besleybean wrote:

Sadly, I don't think Sherlock is that averse to murder...

I wonder if it was the first time he killed someone. Mycroft and his "Oh Sherlock, what have you done?" sounded disappointed rather than truly shocked or surprised and if anyone can rationalize killing someone it would be Mycroft. They even seem closer than ever before. No scenes where Sherlock is deliberatley cruel to Mycroft, no diet jokes...

But John? Sherlock kills for him and Mary and there is no reaction? I can believe in John cheating on Mary ... but John and Sherlock drifting further apart after Sherlock risked so much for them? And they don't even fight because of it or anything. Just complete indifference on John's side.

 

Whisky wrote:

 I think we still tend to defend Mycroft, but I find it harder to do so now. What about him and Mary?
What responsibility does Mycroft have here? Or had?

Sherlock and Mycroft should do some talking. And Sherlock and John. It would simplify things. They all tangle each other up in big stuff and get strangled. Why not play with open cards? Would love to see more of that. Maybe that's what is coming next episode.

I hope they do not make Mycroft a villian... the one thing we know for sure about him is that he loves Sherlock. For now I see no reason to doubt that.

But if he knew about AGRA he must have known about Mary's past from the beginning, doesn't he? And he didn't care to mention to Sherlock or John that John was marrying a potentially dangerous former assasin or intervene in any way? Not even after she shot Sherlock?


 

Hello, another new face here but I really needed a place to talk about this now .

The whole episode had a surreal feeling to me... but I don't think they would do another Mind-Palace-episode like the Abominable Bride, would they?

I loved Mycroft though. It seems the more John and Sherlock drift apart the closer Sherlock and Mycroft get. It reminded me of the beginning of TEH.
I found the Sherrinford part a bit confusing. Mycroft looks into his empty fridge, closes it, takes a takeaway-menu, sees the "13.00"-post-it, looks at his watch... and calls Sherrinford... instead of ordering something to eat.