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December 7, 2017 9:07 am  #161


Re: These "series 4 is the last" rumours

kgreen20 wrote:

Well, if they're going to wait until Cumberbatch and Freeman are old and gray, they may as well just go ahead and announce the show's permanent cancellation, and have done with it.  No use in even planning to bring out a 5th season sometime in the future, if we'll all going to be in our rocking chairs and leaning on canes, if not dead, by the time it's ever made.

However, Moffat and Gatiss haven't announced the show's cancellation yet.  And as long as they don't, there's a chance that there will be a Season 5.
 

Yeah, I also think that if the only plan is to wait twenty years until B&M clear their schedules, it would be more honest to announce the cancellation, so if they are not doing that yet, maybe there's a small possibility that we will have it earlier.  


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December 8, 2017 7:20 am  #162


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I think Moffat is just throwing out ideas. It doesn't mean that their definite plan is to wait 30 years for a follow-up.

I do think Elemental has a point, though. Where can the show go from here? Seeing as there will probably be at least five years (maybe even more) from S4 to S5, they can't depend on prequels and flashbacks, because both Ben and Martin would be too old for that. And I do agree that they can't just go on with "the case of the week", I think both Ben and Martin would get bored really fast if they did that. And so would probably the fans.

In addition most of the major and most well-known ACD stories are now done in previous seasons. So what's left to do? But, yeah, there is another thread open now for this discussion. 


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February 6, 2018 6:22 pm  #163


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Not big news exactly, but here is a recent interview from radio times with Steven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoXSAmWnxg

And one with Mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CZBtLmf3-c

So yeah, basically, there could be more Sherlock after Dracula.


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February 6, 2018 6:49 pm  #164


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Yeah I know I instantly snippily reacted that it wasn't telling us anything new...
I admire Mark's optimism on the date.
Thing is, if it is only that time frame? Then what the heck was all the fuss about!
It's not really much longer than usual.
So I remain sceptical!
 

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February 6, 2018 9:11 pm  #165


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Yeah, nothing new, it's the same thing they've always said. Moftiss are focusing on Dracula and other projects. Ben and Martin are focusing on their Marvel movies and other projects. 


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February 7, 2018 4:36 pm  #166


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Right now, yes.  But as soon as they can, they'll all be focusing once more on Sherlock! =)
 

 

February 7, 2018 6:30 pm  #167


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I am more than willing to wait.
I'd rather have everyone come back and do it when they want to and have the time than be committed to it and bored.   http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


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February 7, 2018 7:00 pm  #168


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Indeed.


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April 11, 2018 10:22 am  #169


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I just compiled some quotes by the team itself that were made between 2014 and one month before S4 aired.

http://gosherlocked.tumblr.com/post/172822121196/series-5-to-be-or-not-to-be

This does not make sense regarding the silence after S4. Even if we assume just for the sake of speculation that Mofftiss wrote 4 and 5 and then, maybe, an important actor said he did not want to continue. So they would have had to condense 4 and 5 into one single series 4 that would end the show, right? But in May 2016 Beryl Vertue talked about doing more even beyond series 5. At this point S4 was mid-filming so she as one of the producers would have known that this was the last series. And yet this is what she said.  


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April 11, 2018 10:54 am  #170


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Thanks for compiling those, Susi http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/love.png


I so want to keep my hopes up. But I prefer to trust what we see on screen (where they actually put their money and reputation on) that some quotes that may or may not have been very thought through before they were said. And what I see is they wrote TFP so they had the choice to cancel the show afterwards, so it's a very distinct possibility. What made it a possibility, whatever it was, must have happened before TFP (and probably the whole S4) was written and filmed. So for me, those quotes make sense in the context of keeping the fandom "warm" for the possibility of another season, as remote or far away in time as it might be, but I wouldn't bet my money on S5 happening based on them. They are really vague.

I don't know if this made a lot of sense. It does in my head, I swear http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


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April 11, 2018 6:55 pm  #171


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My guess is that S4 and S5 weren't written in 2014, but they had sketched ideas, including particularly the Eurus story.   TAB was not written until they had the opportunity to do that one off episode and seized the chance to do a Victorian one that was still part of the modern canon!   As filming became more difficult to schedule, they decided to condense the sketched out S4/5 ideas into just three episodes of S4. 

I don't think there has ever been a decision to not carry on, but I do think there was a decision to leave S4 with a proper ending, just in case.  I still don't think they've decided not to do it - just that there's the possibility that it might go ahead.  Obviously, there's the difficulty in scheduling, particularly with Martin and Ben being so famous and successful.   And I wonder if it just doesn't fit so well with people's viewing habits any more too, when we're all on Netflix and so on - do they need a rethink on format, maybe?  I just don't know. 

 

April 11, 2018 8:09 pm  #172


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My interpretetation of what they've all said is that no one has quit or said they they do not want to do this anymore. But I believe some of the actors have said that they do want a break, without having a set date for any future seasons as of now.

So with that in mind, honestly not knowing when, or if, there would be any more seasons, they wrote S4 as an ending, just in case.


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April 11, 2018 10:11 pm  #173


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Unless Moffat and Gatiss announce that yes, Season 4 was the last, we cannot assume that it was.  It's up to them to decide, and they will surely announce it if they decide that there will be no more seasons.  That they have not made such an announcement up to this point indicates that they're at least keeping the possibility of Season 5 open.

 

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April 12, 2018 6:43 am  #174


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Liberty wrote:

I don't think there has ever been a decision to not carry on, but I do think there was a decision to leave S4 with a proper ending, just in case.  I still don't think they've decided not to do it - just that there's the possibility that it might go ahead.  Obviously, there's the difficulty in scheduling, particularly with Martin and Ben being so famous and successful.   And I wonder if it just doesn't fit so well with people's viewing habits any more too, when we're all on Netflix and so on - do they need a rethink on format, maybe?  I just don't know. 

Oh, well, this argument of their fame has been there since 2012. Every other film franchise or TV show has to do the same, this is not a unique case. I think it will be surely possible, provided everybody wants it. 
As for the format - I think that it is the very format that makes it something special. As you say, on Netflix, Amazon Prime, Sky, etc. everything is available at once. There is less speculation, less excitement going on and this is what the Sherlock fandom has thrived on. Therefore I do not think that this would be a reason to rethink the format. I could imagine, however, that they might do another stand-alone episode like TAB if schedules proved to be too difficult. 


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April 12, 2018 7:05 am  #175


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Personally, I like the format.  And some excellent recent shows that I've watched still release episodes weekly - Twin Peaks, Better Call Saul, etc.  Not that they have to copy other shows anyway!  But most shows do have more episodes, and I think you especially feel it with the ones that are released weekly.  I felt immersed in Twin Peaks for months, when it was on!  The two weeks of Sherlock seemed so short after such a long wait (of course, it was a much longer wait for Twin Peaks!).  Anyway, it did seem that S4 didn't get as high viewing figures - whether that was people losing interest, or preferring to watch on catch-up, I don't know.  

Another stand alone episode would be absolutely brilliant!  I do hope there's a chance of that, if they can't manage a full S5 anytime soon.

 

April 15, 2018 12:39 pm  #176


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Me, too, and I know just what I want that standalone episode to focus on, if they can't use the next season to do so!
 

 

April 15, 2018 1:45 pm  #177


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I'd happily take stand alone!


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April 19, 2018 7:53 pm  #178


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From the BBC Radio 2 Instagram account:

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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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April 19, 2018 7:55 pm  #179


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Woohoo!

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April 19, 2018 8:15 pm  #180


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Hm, I'm sceptical. I think this is just one of Ben's blanket statemetns being made into more than it is again. 


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