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January 18, 2017 1:00 pm  #21


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

nakahara wrote:

I think that Martin´s behaviour at the time of Hobbitt filming can be contributed to the fact that he split with Amanda Abbington during that time, which was certainly stressful - I don´t think this was caused by having "frosty" relationship with Benedict.

As I understood it, he split with Amanda in March/April 2016, which was after The Hobbit trilogy was finished.


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January 18, 2017 1:01 pm  #22


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Nakahara wrote:

I think that Martin´s behaviour at the time of Hobbitt filming can be contributed to the fact that he split with Amanda Abbington during that time, which was certainly stressful - I don´t think this was caused by having "frosty" relationship with Benedict.

Do I understand it right? He already split with AA during the Hobbit filming?

Edit: Late again.
 

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January 18, 2017 1:05 pm  #23


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

gently69 wrote:

Nakahara wrote:

I think that Martin´s behaviour at the time of Hobbitt filming can be contributed to the fact that he split with Amanda Abbington during that time, which was certainly stressful - I don´t think this was caused by having "frosty" relationship with Benedict.

Do I understand it right? He already split with AA during the Hobbit filming?

Edit: Late again.
 

Split does not occur overnight, there were probably some problems in the relationship during the last Hobbit movie promotion already, IMHO (sorry, if I had specified incorrectly in the above post).

 

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January 18, 2017 1:07 pm  #24


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Yeah, because they finished the Hobbit filming in 2012 already. And then that went for nearly 4 more years? Amazing.


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January 18, 2017 1:13 pm  #25


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

gently69 wrote:

Yeah, because they finished the Hobbit filming in 2012 already. And then that went for nearly 4 more years? Amazing.


I was speaking about last Hobbitt movie (The battle of five armies) promotion. Which happened around 2014.
The only time Martin and Benedict looked a bit estranged was around the filming of The Abominable Bride, which came in 2015, so is it such a stretch?


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January 18, 2017 1:22 pm  #26


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Right... the promotion... because I looked it up again. The last additional filming was in 2013. Sorry for being a nitpicker.


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January 18, 2017 1:23 pm  #27


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

No problem. It´s only speculation anyway.


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January 18, 2017 1:26 pm  #28


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

I would just like to point out that "annoyed" is almost Martin's natural state. 


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January 18, 2017 5:32 pm  #29


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

I still didn't see Martin look annoyed...did I miss something?!


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January 18, 2017 5:46 pm  #30


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Meretricious wrote:

I finally found the clip I was talking about:




Again, I could be misinterpreting his body language, but at 0:35 when Benedict says "hello" in a silly voice, Martin rolls his eyes and looks away, might even have a little swear to himself. Or maybe he's just being his funny self.

I thought they both were very sweet!

Here's my favorite, Martin says "Benedict should go f himself" but he's clearly been provoked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjuDR6wHa0

And we know Martin swears all the time so we shouldn't take such things seriously.

On balance, there are innumerable interviews where they talk very appreciatively about each other.


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January 18, 2017 5:47 pm  #31


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

besleybean wrote:

Wow.
Well I certainly missed that Hobbit one.
The only thing I saw was them hugging affectionately when they met on set.

On The Hobbit trilogy, Benedict did the voices of Smaug the dragon and the Necromancer, Sauron.

 

 

January 18, 2017 5:51 pm  #32


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

I'm really laughing now, kgreen.
No, you misunderstood me.
I have seen all 3 Hobbit films several times and only watched them for Benedict!
No, I was referring to Martin apparently being annoyed with him in the clip when they met on the Hobbit set.

On the famous: Benedict can go and f- himself clip.  I think Martin is rightly annoyed with the interviewer and is being amusing.  I am certain Benedict would have laughed if he saw it.


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January 18, 2017 5:58 pm  #33


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

besleybean wrote:

I'm really laughing now, kgreen.
No, you misunderstood me.
I have seen all 3 Hobbit films several times and only watched them for Benedict!
No, I was referring to Martin apparently being annoyed with him in the clip when they met on the Hobbit set.

On the famous: Benedict can go and f- himself clip.  I think Martin is rightly annoyed with the interviewer and is being amusing.  I am certain Benedict would have laughed if he saw it.

That's my interpretation too! But I think this is where the rumors can start!

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do you remember I have already explained you The Hobbit a couple of weeks ago? For a person who's actually watched the trilogy, you make the wrong impression way to often! *falls over laughing*


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January 18, 2017 6:49 pm  #34


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Er, the previous occasion was because I hadn't read the book.
This time was just a misunderstanding.
Though I do find it amusing that somebody could think a BC fan wouldn't know he was Smaug!


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January 18, 2017 6:52 pm  #35


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

besleybean wrote:

Er, the previous occasion was because I hadn't read the book.
This time was just a misunderstanding.
Though I do find it amusing that somebody could think a BC fan wouldn't know he was Smaug!

 
I remember and I haven't been laughin at you, just at the situation you repeatedly find yourself in


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January 18, 2017 6:54 pm  #36


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

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January 18, 2017 8:02 pm  #37


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Wow, I'm quite surprised by this. I never came across these videos... To be honest, I don't see anything wrong in Martin's reaction at The Hobbit shooting. I think he's talking and goes on with what he's saying, but doesn't seem pissed at Benedict's appearance.


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January 18, 2017 11:31 pm  #38


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

I didn't see any hostility between them on that video, either.

BTW, here's a few more videos you all might like.









 

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March 3, 2017 8:46 pm  #39


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

I never had the impression that Matin was seriously annoyed at Benedict on the Hobbit set, he was just being his ironic/sarcastic self. To quote Mark Gatiss: "Martin Freeman is a very angry man, which is kind of part of his charm. He's so angry he always makes me laugh because of it. But he's got a really brilliant sort of dry sense of humour." At least from what I've seen in interviews with Martin, I couldn't agree more with Mark.

 

March 3, 2017 8:48 pm  #40


Re: Sherlock to end because of Ben and Martin's 'frosty relationship'

Yes, I just think Martin is very honest and takes no prisoners...I like that.
Having said that, I've wondered in recent interview if I've noticed a  softening of attitude.


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