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January 15, 2017 5:46 pm  #41


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

I think the difference is that (the way it's presented, anyway), we don't really need to know anything more about John than we already do.  There is no secret.  His motivation was spelled out in ASIP, whereas Sherlock's was more of a mystery.

 

January 15, 2017 5:47 pm  #42


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

Exactly so.


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January 15, 2017 6:35 pm  #43


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

But John's violent anger towards Sherlock in TLD has changed everything.  Everyone wants to know why he did what he did, and the usual explanations won't help.  A look into his back story would answer a lot of questions, especially since, if the article I posted a link to above is correct, he apparently needs to make peace with at least parts of his past.  It's not only Sherlock who needs to come to terms with his history now!

 

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January 15, 2017 6:44 pm  #44


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

I'll be surprised if there's anything more than we already know about John.
All of that is enough in itself, for anybody to cope with.
I doubt there would be time in this episode, to deal with it anyway.


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January 15, 2017 7:05 pm  #45


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

On that last point, you may well be right.  We'll see.  But if that's the case, that's reason in itself for a 5th season!
 

 

January 15, 2017 7:07 pm  #46


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

There are plenty of reasons...but I really do not think it will happen.
Anyway, I am going now.
Hugs everyone and see you on the other side.


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January 15, 2017 8:12 pm  #47


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

kgreen20 wrote:

On that last point, you may well be right.  We'll see.  But if that's the case, that's reason in itself for a 5th season!
 

I see it exactly the same. There are many matters to explain, and hundreds millions of viewers, who want see the fifth season. 

Something came to my mind... The scene from beginning of TEH, when we can see John, and he looks different. He is wearing the coat, not jacket, and he has dark scarf. Later mrs Hudson reproaches him for lack of any contact, he nods, but looks so emotionally detached...  And his mustache - well, curls were not available ;[  I mean: did he made unconscious decision, in order to stop suffering, to become more like Sherlock, and stop feeling emotions? Can it be, why he gradually stopped to express his anger?
What do you think about it?

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January 15, 2017 8:19 pm  #48


Re: Angry John - not only because Mary's death?

besleybean wrote:

There are plenty of reasons...but I really do not think it will happen.
Anyway, I am going now.
Hugs everyone and see you on the other side.

Enjoy seeing it on the big screen!
 


                                                                                                                      

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