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January 23, 2016 5:40 pm  #61


Re: Questions about the English language

Yeah, generally we say "last name" here.  I used it in my previous post only for consistency with what others had been using so as not to be confusing.

II and III etc. are usually just for monarchy, isn't it?

I know what it's like not to like your name.  I went by a shortened version of my name for my entire life, it's used in the family, but it seems childish to me now so when I'm at school I get most people to call me by the full version.  It seems more mature to me, and less "girly."


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January 23, 2016 5:56 pm  #62


Re: Questions about the English language

Similar story here...
I grew up spelling my shortened name as 'Beve'.
Years later I wondered if it is because my sister is 'Anne'!
But then one day I decided I had to be all grown up and mature and spell it properly as 'Bev'...partly because at the time I was rather keen on a guy called 'Kev'!
Having said that, my best Sherlockian pal always calls me 'Bes'(cos of my username)...even though she knows I'm 'Bev'!
But then, that's what my family used to call me and variations of...hence my username.


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January 24, 2016 11:42 pm  #63


Re: Questions about the English language

Yitzock wrote:

II and III etc. are usually just for monarchy, isn't it?

*shrug*  Not exactly.  Again, I think influenced by the family's cultural lineage or preference with how names got passed down, I've seen it a couple times.  Cousin's husband for example, John David Smith III (just an example name), after his father, John David Smith II (or said verbally, 'the Second'), then the original grandfather.  Italian family, though, with emphasis on carrying on certain eldest's sons names (like how I said my family did, only at least they creatively varied it).  Other than using 'Senior' and 'Junior' and such (and even those probably vary or are unheard of depending on geography!).


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January 24, 2016 11:52 pm  #64


Re: Questions about the English language

Well, I suppose there is some usage outside the monarchy, but I was thinking maybe it was more of an upper class or traditional thing.

Speaking of how we write those numbers vs how we say them, apparently in North America the film "The Madness of King George III" was renamed just "The Madness of King George" because they were afraid people would think it was a sequel and wouldn't see it because they hadn't seen the "previous ones."  It's funny but also kind of sad in a way.


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January 25, 2016 6:36 am  #65


Re: Questions about the English language

I blame the education system...although cultural gaps can be quite amusing!


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January 5, 2017 3:06 pm  #66


Re: Questions about the English language

Reviving an old thread, but I have a question. I'm going to put it in spoilers because my question is sexually explicit, but I am honestly wondering. (It concerns the term "shagging"):

I always thought "shagging" meant penetrative sex, but I've read in countless Johnlock fics how they said that they "shagged" when they did things like handjobs or blowjobs. Could someone enlighten me if shagging refers to all kind of sexual activities?

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January 5, 2017 5:12 pm  #67


Re: Questions about the English language

You're right, Vhanja, it's penetrative sex!  I imagine all sorts of amusing misunderstandings coming from using it wrongly!

 

January 5, 2017 5:37 pm  #68


Re: Questions about the English language

So are those fic writers native English speakers?
Because I agree with Liberty, that's what the word would mean to me.


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January 5, 2017 6:42 pm  #69


Re: Questions about the English language

It could be that fics where other acts have been described with that word were written by Americans or Canadians who misunderstood what the word meant, even if they were native English speakers.  It's not a word that's commonly used here, there's other slang expressions for it.  I'm Canadian and I knew what the word meant from having learned it when I got older and read/watched more stuff from "across the pond" and when I read your question, Vhanja, I, too, was not sure what "qualified" under the definition of the word.


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January 5, 2017 7:53 pm  #70


Re: Questions about the English language

Yes, it seems to be a local word.  I remember we had a discussion here about John saying he wanted to "get off with" Sarah.  Here (UK) that just seems to mean getting together with (kissing), but outside I think some people felt it meant having sex with. 

Shagging (the word, not the activity) seems to have gone out of fashion these days, though.  It only seems to be used in a joking, light-hearted way.

 

January 5, 2017 8:04 pm  #71


Re: Questions about the English language

Thanks for letting me know, glad I have understood it correctly.


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January 6, 2017 12:03 am  #72


Re: Questions about the English language

Very interesting, Liberty.


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