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January 4, 2017 10:37 pm  #21


Re: The change of atmosphere

Water and especially watery scenes with an underwater  feel are often used as subconscious thoughts , hallucinations , dreams or memories no? As they were in TAB. This episode might be similar.


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January 4, 2017 10:39 pm  #22


Re: The change of atmosphere

Those are very interesting points, Three Garridebs, thanks for sharing!

I must agree with you on music. To me, it almost felt non-existent during an episode... 


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January 4, 2017 11:19 pm  #23


Re: The change of atmosphere

Ewige, here's a definition of high frame rate from Wikipedia: 

"In motion picture technology—either film or video—high frame rate (HFR) refers to higher frame rates than typical prior practice. The frame rate for motion picture film cameras was typically 24 frames per second (fps) with multiple flashes on each frame during projection to prevent flicker."

I'm not sure if the episode really was shot with a high frame rate, but the best example I can point to are the Hobbit movies that came out a few years ago.  One was shot with a high frame rate and it made the scene extremely sharp and clear.  Too clear in my opinion.  It plays with your eyes (at least it does with mine) so that you can't quite forget that you're watching a show or movie.  Your eye is busy picking up and noting all the details in the background.

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January 4, 2017 11:48 pm  #24


Re: The change of atmosphere

Three Garridebs wrote:

Ewige, here's a definition of high frame rate from Wikipedia: 

"In motion picture technology—either film or video—high frame rate (HFR) refers to higher frame rates than typical prior practice. The frame rate for motion picture film cameras was typically 24 frames per second (fps) with multiple flashes on each frame during projection to prevent flicker."

I'm not sure if the episode really was shot with a high frame rate, but the best example I can point to are the Hobbit movies that came out a few years ago.  One was shot with a high frame rate and it made the scene extremely sharp and clear.  Too clear in my opinion.  It plays with your eyes (at least it does with mine) so that you can't quite forget that you're watching a show or movie.  Your eye is busy picking up and noting all the details in the background.

Wow, very cool! I wasn't sure how you can notice the high frame rate since the eye is supposedly only good for 24 frames per minute. Interesting! Thanks for the explanation!


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January 5, 2017 1:03 am  #25


Re: The change of atmosphere

Something important I think we need to remember.
(Although nothing is absolutely verified I feel strongly about this.)

Yes, so much about this episode feels "off."  But I believe it's SUPPOSE to feel off.  That the creators intended to rattle us and make us question what we were seeing.  It's "off" on purpose!   I think this is a very important thing to keep in mind when analyzing the content.


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January 5, 2017 6:32 am  #26


Re: The change of atmosphere

Three Garridebs, thank you for your long and detailed post. You are right, people who know how to do it decided to do it differently this time.

The main question here is, why?

I for one are sure that we will see things in the next two episodes that will make us re-think many aspects of TST. The unrealistic feeling, the unusual camera angles, the lack of telling music might prepare us to do so.


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January 5, 2017 6:45 am  #27


Re: The change of atmosphere

All I see is it getting bleaker...


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January 5, 2017 7:50 am  #28


Re: The change of atmosphere

besleybean wrote:

All I see is it getting bleaker...

But you did notice the things Three Garridebs mentioned, didn't you?


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January 5, 2017 8:12 am  #29


Re: The change of atmosphere

Very interesting analysis. I wonder how much of the visual differences was intentional, and how much was due to the particular style of the new director. Although, of cause the story-telling details would be Mark's. And I really did not like the colouring (?) of it. Everyone seemed to look orange. (Or is there something wrong with my screen?) However the music was very noticeable different. I cannot remember one instance of "The game is on", which I just love, and there would have been plenty of opportunities for it. I did love the music in the graveyard scene between Sherlock and Mary, was that the same as in the Leinster Gardens scene? Felt very foreboding. But yes, overall. It had a different feel to it. Let's see what the other episodes bring us.


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January 5, 2017 9:45 am  #30


Re: The change of atmosphere

They were definitely more orange/oranger!  And of course they all had different hairstyles (Sherlock not so much, but still a little different).

I actually really liked the music in this.  I agree it's different, and I don't think it has been very popular, but at several points I was thinking "I love this music"! 
 

 

January 5, 2017 12:24 pm  #31


Re: The change of atmosphere

tonnaree wrote:

Something important I think we need to remember.
(Although nothing is absolutely verified I feel strongly about this.)

Yes, so much about this episode feels "off."  But I believe it's SUPPOSE to feel off.  That the creators intended to rattle us and make us question what we were seeing.  It's "off" on purpose!   I think this is a very important thing to keep in mind when analyzing the content.

I think you are right. These cinematic techniques were used precisely so that we will be unsettled by the atmosphere of Baker Street right away, IMHO. It´s very deliberate on director´s part.
 


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